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名媛直播Mackem wrote: Structural training? I am sure it has been covered before but what I have been able to pick up is removal of branches can aid the thickness of the tree. Am I right?

No. You are absolutely wrong. Removal of branches will not aid the thickness.

Removing branches and letting other branches grow at strategical locations will let the trunk grow more, or make it grow less, at these locations, so you crate taper.

I assume this is what you mean. But what if the pruning was limited to just shaping? Could you get the same result you get from pruning to help the structure?

Not exactly. It will not get the exact same result. But can you please just leave the tree alone for a year?

Auk wrote: But can you please just leave the tree alone for a year?

Impossible! :silly: :oops:

Auk wrote:

名媛直播Mackem wrote: Structural training? I am sure it has been covered before but what I have been able to pick up is removal of branches can aid the thickness of the tree. Am I right?

No. You are absolutely wrong. Removal of branches will not aid the thickness.

Removing branches and letting other branches grow at strategical locations will let the trunk grow more, or make it grow less, at these locations, so you crate taper.

I assume this is what you mean. But what if the pruning was limited to just shaping? Could you get the same result you get from pruning to help the structure?

Not exactly. It will not get the exact same result. But can you please just leave the tree alone for a year?

I wasn't asking if I could do it if that is what your worried about.

I was just enquiring to really just as a matter of interest.

After the last week or so I am happy to leave it. I have another focus. I have a Rowan tree sapling which I intent to get in the ground.

It has been about a year now since it has been in the ground to give thickness to the trunk and I have done nothing till I am 100% or what is needed to be done. Though I have a slight idea and that is to use the trunk to help the side branch which protrudes from the base grow and to clip it back to a branch to basically ramify it (turn it to a lead branch and create the zigzag style in the illustration on a previous page).

Had a look this afternoon and whilst the top branches are very healthy and growing away nicely the branches at the base are dead.

How could this have happened?

Because they were recieving no light and that's what a juniper does naturally you must make sure that the light reaches the whole tree , can u show us a pic?

Enaisio wrote: Because they were recieving no light and that's what a juniper does naturally you must make sure that the light reaches the whole tree , can u show us a pic?

I don't think that is necessary. I can virtually confirm that it doesn't all get total light all the time. That would explain it perfectly. The house is on a west-east alignment here in the north east of England. They say the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. But the tree is close to a north-south facing tall wooden fence. So I can see how it is perhaps just to the side of the rays of sun light the garden gets. It is just out of its way.

But I will send pics anyway to let you see its full condition.

It's not just the position sometimes it's the branches themselves that shade the lower branches , we usually solve this by thinning out by pruning and wiring but if you're just trying to grow yours out I'm not sure how you would go around this to keep your lower branches maybe someone else has some ideas

Enaisio wrote: It's not just the position sometimes it's the branches themselves that shade the lower branches , we usually solve this by thinning out by pruning and wiring but if you're just trying to grow yours out I'm not sure how you would go around this to keep your lower branches maybe someone else has some ideas

If you look on post #15666 you can see I think the top of the main trunk line is rather crowded. I can say with confidence I have a better grasp of how sacrifice branches are used to thicken and taper the trunk below it. I can see one very thick branch which I think I can use.



The third and fourth paragraph in "How to grow sacrifice branches" leaves me a little unsure. But the vision if how they are used to thicken the trunk is clearer.

名媛直播Mackem wrote:

Enaisio wrote: Because they were recieving no light and that's what a juniper does naturally you must make sure that the light reaches the whole tree , can u show us a pic?

I don't think that is necessary. I can virtually confirm that it doesn't all get total light all the time. That would explain it perfectly. The house is on a west-east alignment here in the north east of England. They say the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. But the tree is close to a north-south facing tall wooden fence. So I can see how it is perhaps just to the side of the rays of sun light the garden gets. It is just out of its way.

But I will send pics anyway to let you see its full condition.

no matter where you live the sun will rise from the east

When growing branches for taper & trunk thickness, you let the lower branches grow wild. Meanwhile, you keep the upper branches in check. This will by and off itself ensure more light coming to the lower branches. BEsides this, it is good habit to remove foliage near the trunk from sacrifice branches: That way you allow sunlight to get close to the trunk, and keep other shorter branchlets alive to be used later in the design og the tree (Or other sacrifice branches, of course).