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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15505
Just bought a Chinese Juniper 'blue alp's'. I am wondering what you think I can do to it.

Sorry about the quality of the pic. It was taken on my tablet and I haven't gotten used to it. You may need to edit it a bit I think.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15506
Well, it's blue. Sorry but it is impossible to tell from that image.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15507
Sorry about that! The white balance was set to incandescent!

It is a better pic now.

I see on bonsai4me it says to put it in an inorganic clay based soil. Like what, and is it commercially available here in the UK.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15508
Just found this re soil. Seems like it doesn't like clay after all.



Any ideas on shape? I was thinking the obvious....cascade.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15510
I would remove that of which you are sure you don't need (so don't remove branches you need to thicken the trunk), then put it in the ground and let it grow for a couple of years. Then decide what the best options are.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15511
How do I know what the best branches are to thicken the trunk?

Also is there any trees that can be transplanted from container to pot without planting in the ground and waiting years?

Doesn't seem that many.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15512
Sorry man, I must be getting boring with my repeated advice to let things grow, so I'll simply reply with a couple of links.





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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15513
I do understand the reasons. I do. It is just a tad deflating don't you think when told that you can't do something right away and that you must first wait for so long?

It is like your son or daughter asking you for that toy for Christmas they have always wanted and saying to them to wait till the following Christmas before getting it.

I am totally sympathetic to the reasons why we do that though and am happy to do that.

But how long is a few? Two? Three? Four? If it ain't as long as I am perhaps thinking then it won't be so bad.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15514
Also, having read the first ervergreegardenworks article which I found fascinating and VERY insightful, I sadly don't know what is meant by 'leader'.

And when it says '1/3 the thickness' and '1/3 the height' I can't sadly visualize what 1/3 is since one of my faults with my slight learning difficulty is I have never been able to fully grasp maths and numbers. What is meant by one third?
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15519

名媛直播Mackem wrote: It is like your son or daughter asking you for that toy for Christmas they have always wanted and saying to them to wait till the following Christmas before getting it.


I think you are making clear what is by far the biggest problem with new bonsai enthusiasts. You're not the only one.
Lots of people try to create an instant-bonsai... but end up with something disappointing. Often they kill the tree in the process. Yes, there are movies on youtube of people making a wonderful tree out of raw material - but do notice these people are experts and they use good material.

But how long is a few? Two? Three? Four? If it ain't as long as I am perhaps thinking then it won't be so bad


That depends on a couple of factors, like:
- Your starter material. If you already have a good trunk, and if the tree has already been trained, you can start shaping the tree. The better quality material, the higher the price, of course
- The type of tree. Some grow and develop quicker than others
- The style. For a literati style tree, you don't want a big fat trunk. You can make a nice forest using simple trees with straight trunks.
- Your goal. The more time you give it, the more beautiful it can get.

My best tree is a juniper that I've been working on for 15 years. It has been in a very large garden pot and has only been potted in a bonsai pot 2 years ago. It needed the time to grow branches, to heal wounds, to develop roots. It is not a masterpiece, but every year it looks a bit better than the year before.

I have a few other plants from that period, that were planted in small training pots at that time. They have hardly developed in all these years and still are hardly worthwhile.
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