First tree, advice and wisdom sought
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wabbitGTI wrote: I owe Auk a sincere apology, and I would like to thank those who took time to clarify this fact for me.
Thanks to both of you, I appreciate it.
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24337eangola wrote: Why? if it is tangled already... it'll be a pain anyway. My reasoning came to. If the tree has overgrown its pot ,and it needs to be re-potted, it is too late to re-pot now if you are not very experienced. slip-potting shouldn't cause much harm, but instead leave the tree some room for the rest of the year, and how much worst could it get with the little time of growing season its left
NOt this growing season, no. But if you do what you suggested (Sluip-pot. eave for 2-3 years. Sl;ip pot again. L:eave for a few years and then see whether you want to reduce the roots) you get a mess you cannot deal with anymore. As such, such advice should be accompagnied with the uintangling of roots as soon as responsible.
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leatherback wrote:
eangola wrote: Why? if it is tangled already... it'll be a pain anyway. My reasoning came to. If the tree has overgrown its pot ,and it needs to be re-potted, it is too late to re-pot now if you are not very experienced. slip-potting shouldn't cause much harm, but instead leave the tree some room for the rest of the year, and how much worst could it get with the little time of growing season its left
NOt this growing season, no. But if you do what you suggested (Sluip-pot. eave for 2-3 years. Sl;ip pot again. L:eave for a few years and then see whether you want to reduce the roots) you get a mess you cannot deal with anymore. As such, such advice should be accompagnied with the uintangling of roots as soon as responsible.
Some knowledge you only learn with practice, or by listening to those with experience. Thank you Leatherback.
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leatherback wrote: Sorry to see this. Can I ask you to look at this post: ?
Is Auk direct in his answers? Ys. Is he direct in his question? Yes he is. Is he doing it to help people grow out of the ignorance phase as quick as possible? Yes he is. One of the clear differences between countries in the way things are learned. In the Netherlands, a system is used where students are guided by questions and comments that should trigger thinking. This may not seem helpfull, as these are often short, to the point and referring people to do more reading. It is one way to help people. I do realize that other cultures have other learning methods.
I owe Auk a sincere apology, and I would like to thank those who took time to clarify this fact for me.
I did not realize we had an international group here and I certainly know the sentiment well after many years of involvement with European automobiles. Knowing this now I can see the error in my judgement and have re-read all of his comments in this post and a few others. Again, I humbly apologize for the misunderstanding.
I would like to thank all of those who have commented for their assistance as you ALL have more experience than I do. I hope we can continue this discussion and I will keep you updated as to the condition of the plant once I have a chance to examine the root system.
I recalled that we have a very mature juniper, probably older than I am, that has been planted at my grandfather's home that could make a suitable pre-bonsai. I may update with a photo or two of this plant and see the thoughts of the elders.
Take a picture of the Juniper, post it here and ask for advice on preparing the tree, collecting and training it. The best Juniper 名媛直播s are collected, wild trees. So you might have a great specimen there!. I suggest you practice 名媛直播 techniques with nursery stock material for a few years, familiarize yourself with the art before trying to collect the tree. Good luck.
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You could do what we call here in OZ slip potting, simply put it means gently taking it out of the bonsai pot & without too much root disturbance put it into a much larger plastic pot with drain holes carefully adding bonsai potting medium under and around to center the tree .
Just make sure that you cut the wires that hold it into the bonsai pot if it is wired in, these will be visible on the underside of the pot.
I usually sink the plastic pot just in the ground to the top of the drainage holes or mound up soil, this way once the roots grow down & into the soil its party time & they usually take off. This is a quick way we push on thickness overall and growth over a few of seasons.
This way if you have to move you simply use a spade or bread knife to sever the roots that have come out the drain holes, give it a clean & presto it becomes portable.
There would be enough fine roots still in the pot to keep it healthy, till you wanted to do a root prune & replace the soil at a later date.
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Whoops I was only going off the earlier post & didn't realize that there were further discussions on this topic.
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