advice on Japanese elm - styling
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so, my conclusion would, be, if you wish to try on this material, i am happy for you to do it , however it will take far longer than if you had nursery material of your choice. i am saying this due to the fact that time you cannot get back, so you have a choice to or not to do it.
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And what about pruning? Do i wait until it is grown out more to identify dead twigs, clip then and then work on pruning?
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structural pruning is when you prune to improve the structure of the tree, so if you remove a branch to allow another to thrive more, or if you prune a chinese elm to help it grow branches from the nodes to improve branch density and structure.
maintenance pruning should be self explanatory, to just tidy up growth, so escape branches on a pine maybe.
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M5eaygeoff, i hope its not the case but unless Rob from 名媛直播 Dubai (check out his site) who supposedly has over 20 years in the business doesn't know what he is talking about, must be a Japanese Elm. But if he is wrong and you are absolutely sure, i am shopping in the wrong place. And moving forward, He-She then?
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"The term "Mallsai" was coined by Vance Wood in 1986 and has come to mean any potted plant that is sold under the label "bonsai" and which is found in any retail outlet that is not a bonsai specialty nursery. These Mallsai are typically mass-produced and often have a surface covering consisting of gravel, which is glued on to prevent spillage during shipping and handling. They also typically come potted in heavily glazed and often colorful imported Chinese pots."
luckily, yours is not too bad.
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taryam wrote: Hello. I have just recently purchased a Japanese elm who has spent the last few months recovering from customs quarantine.
When do i start wiring?
What Bob was trying to tell you:
This is a mallsai. It is not bonsai starter material, it is a 'finished' product, intended to look like a bonsai.
If you want to grow this tree to become a good bonsai in the future: that's not what it's trained for. It doesn't have the quality that's required for good starting material.
I'm not sure why you want to wire it - other than that all new bonsaiists seem to think that is a necessity - to start wiring, pruning and repotting asap. Because of this, most people kill their first tree.
With this type of tree you can do two things:
- Leave it as is, only prune it to maintain its shape. you would only prune shoots that get too long and don't fit in the current contours of the tree.
- Start all over and redesign it. This requires a long period of growth and training and some drastic measures like chopping the trunk. Not something for beginners.
I'd advise the first option. Just enjoy your tree, learn to take care of it and to keep it healthy. If you succeed, start thinking about a next step, and better starting material.
BTW I'm quite sure this is a chinese elm (ulmus parvifolia), not a japanese elm.
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