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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14711
I have to say, if the previous was ?400 and the 200 more, 600 is the total, an OK price i guess. I am not experienced with this species or developing an already "developed" nebari. If i had a dremel, i would carve a bit of that leggy root. But considering you have spent that much, unless you already have a dremel. I would also carve a bit more character into the nebari if i had a dremel.
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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14718
I wouldn't dare to carve into a 600 GBP tree that I just acquired and don't know too well :)
While this tree surely is better than what you got first, it's still a whole lotta money...

First focus MUST be to keep the tree alive and healthy. Don't be tempted to do anything else at this time.
Has the vendor given proper care instructions for this tree in your climate ?
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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14726
I do agree about the reshaping of the exterior roots but definitely something further down the line once i have picked up more. The vendor has indeed provided instructions and based on my care of the previous one, he says he confident this will continue to flourish if the same timings and amount of care is provided. Does anyone have any tips on Chinese pepper bonsai or based on the image, any advice? thanks
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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14728
I aslo got this little shoalin (does anyone know the correct name?) to keep me company indoors.
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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14729

taryam wrote: I aslo got this little shoalin (does anyone know the correct name?) to keep me company indoors.


Dunno... do you mean 'shohin' maybe? That's not a species, but a size indication.
While it does look nice there looking at the colour and the background - to me it seems that is NOT a good location for this tree. What species is it, I'm not sure? Are you sure it's supposed to be indoors? Even if it can be kept indoors, are you sure it gets enough light there?
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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14730
It is Shohin, not sure about the species. It is supposed to be ok indoors, as long as i rotate it towards the light every two weeks. But perhaps your right, might be better of closer to the window.
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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14731

taryam wrote: Does anyone have any tips on Chinese pepper bonsai or based on the image, any advice? thanks


Google up Zanthoxylum beecheyanum for more information, Google "Zanthoxylum beecheyanum bonsai care"
Note you will sometimes find them as Zanthoxylum Piperitum, but that's not correct, that's the Japanese pepper.

I'm not going to give you advice based on the image - except that I again recommend you to be patient and don't try to shape it yet. If it grows quickly, a good idea might be to check for advice with the vendor again. For such a price I'm sure they'll help you with at least the first maintenance.
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Posted 9 years 9 months ago #14733
Thanks for that AUK, will do. Vendor is always willing to help, he is another city though.
Prices are what they are, as mentioned before, he is the only proper bonsai nursery in the country. I am heading to Japan in a few weeks insha Allah, may try to sneak one back somehow. And enough about the price alright, hurts enough!
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15398
Hi All,

This is Rob Macnair, the owner of 名媛直播 Middle East FZ LLC (we operate the 'awareness' and 'info' site, 名媛直播-Dubai.com)

To clarify a few points:

The Elm(s) in discussion is actually a double planting with rocks i.e. 2 Zelkova Serrata (as stated on 'shipping list'), the cost, which appears to horrify, is calculated (as with all our bonsai....incidentally we do not sell 'mallsai') upon cost 'cleared of customs' to Dubai. We airfreight all our trees to ensure the best possible health and as little stress as possible to the trees. The cost of airfreight depends heavily upon the weight and trees that have rocks naturally push-up the costs, especially in the case of the Elm plantings, there are three rocks in the planting. The images are not clear enough for you to make a judgement I feel, the plantings are well-styled and balanced. The price is as it should be, we do not buy container-loads from China, all our trees are personally selected and represent the best possible quality for the cost.

The image of the Chinese Pepper Tree is actually the back view, leaning away from from the viewer, the nebari is excellent and does not require 'dremeling', it has a beautiful flow and branch structure is faultless, the two Pepper trees we had were both sold within a few days of each other, the fact they were in bloom with a mass of tiny yellow flowers no doubt assisted there.

I opened our first bonsai company in France in 1991: '名媛直播 Sud-Ouest' and 名媛直播-Dubai.com was originally set-up as a 'help' site for all the people with dying Ficus Ginseng 'bonsai' as that is all that is available in the UAE. I would re-pot and give advice on care as the retailers certainly offered no guidance......probably due to them having absolutely no knowledge of bonsai tree care.

I imagine the contributors to this topic do not live anywhere near the UAE and have no understanding of our intense climate and indoor conditions for bonsai....hot winters - cold summers...it's all about the AC. Taking guidance on care for bonsai trees kept indoors from the internet is not advisable as it is mostly written by contributors who are living European-like climates....Dubai is a unique climate zone for the bonsai enthusiast and requires careful nurturing and learning, this is what causes confusion with bonsai novices. I am giving advice from experience, and then one can read something on the net about bonsai which is completely contradictory.....yes it is because we are living in a completely different type of climate!

The majority of our trees are actually potted in 100% Seramis, this has proven to be the most successful potting medium for growing environment, fertlising with 12-12-17 every two weeks.

We try different varieties so as to offer people 'choice'. This is a costly exercise, most trees love our winter climate but come July /August then it's usually burn-out time....attached is an image of this year's try-outs, Gingko, Dawn Redwood and Golden Larch.
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This may not be 'passed' by the moderator, I simply wished to clarify a few points mentioned in the discussions.
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Posted 9 years 8 months ago #15399
Before I respond to the rest of your post, I would like to react to this part:

I imagine the contributors to this topic do not live anywhere near the UAE and have no understanding of our intense climate and indoor conditions for bonsai....
Dubai is a unique climate zone for the bonsai enthusiast and requires careful nurturing and learning, this is what causes confusion with bonsai novices. I am giving advice from experience, and then one can read something on the net about bonsai which is completely contradictory.....


Many new bonsai owners cannot wait to prune, repot, wire and fertilize their new tree. In this forum it was repeatedly advised NOT to do that but to be patient. No care guidelines were given, in stead, it was advised several times to contact the vendor (you) for proper advise.
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