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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24622
Hello, my boyfriend and I are going to try to grow bonsais with each other. He suggests we start from seeds but I realize that may be hard. The real question is, what species. We like the smaller leafed varieties and are planning to grow them indoors. So far we have come to like the Chinese elms, Black olives, and Chinese pistachio (although we haven't seen much info on those). Keep in mind we are complete novices. Where should we begin?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24623
Begin by researching. A lot.
Join a club and learn about how well those species do in your climate. I would recommend an outdoor plant, as they are a lot easier to care for if they are suited to your climate, but if you don't have enough space, that may not be possible.
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Growing from seed can be very rewarding, but, as I'm sure you know, takes a lot longer than other methods. I wouldn't say it's harder to grow from seed; if anything it's a bit easier.

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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24625
Thank you! Yes, space is our issue currently, we are both going to different colleges and are living in dorms. So, unfortunately, outdoor ones are not options, we were originally looking into false Cyprus until we found them to be outside plants. Which species did you begin with?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24626
I had a Japanese elm, then a ficus microcarpa, then a carmona. All of them are pretty "easy" beginner plants, but I imagine that Chinese elm would be similar.




and if you ever get some outdoors space


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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24627
Do you have any experience propagating from seed?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24628
Alo I read your first link, it says it can endure the winter. Does that mean it can't be kept inside? Did you keep yours outside?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24630

quinnmquinn wrote: Do you have any experience propagating from seed?


I do. It'll take you many years before you have something to start with and more than that before you have something you can call a pre-bonsai.
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24631
Ficus is a tropical species, so it doesn't need a dormancy period. This means it can stay inside all year.
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24632
He has his heart set on growing them from seeds, he thinks it will be more rewarding that way. I think I will probably go with the Chinese elm. They are apparently pretty fast growing (as far as trees go that is) and have the look I want. I'm still struggling to find information on the Chinese Pistachio .
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #24633

quinnmquinn wrote: He has his heart set on growing them from seeds


That means the next 5 years (depending on the species) he will be growing a tree and not be doing bonsai- probably even longer and much harder if they are grown indoors.

I think I will probably go with the Chinese elm.


Please don't buy a mallsai or anything from wholesale companies, road-side stalls, overprized and low quality things from websites and anything that has dead moss and glued rocks on top, that comes with a gauge, a water ornament or buddha statue. Do not buy anything that has the standard S-shape either.

Learn what a good bonsai looks like, what is good material to achieve good results in the future, and understand that most of what isbeing sold is rubbish and will never become agood bonsai. Visit a real bonsai grower, join a club. Study

Understand that what you think bonsai look like is not what real bonsai look like.
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