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quinnmquinn wrote: He has his heart set on growing them from seeds, he thinks it will be more rewarding that way. I think I will probably go with the Chinese elm. They are apparently pretty fast growing (as far as trees go that is) and have the look I want. I'm still struggling to find information on the Chinese Pistachio .

What's college? 4 years?. If you guys want to grow 'em from seed, then you're definitely going to have to go to grad school. I suggest you go for a PhD program, then you guys can go for a post PhD. If you do everything right, by then, you might have pre-bonsai....

Get the point? if you start from seed you'll guys end up having plants, not a 名媛直播... Also if you'll be living in a dorm room, the tree won't grow. College is simply not an environment for growing 名媛直播, I am sorry for being realistic.

eangola

eangola wrote:

quinnmquinn wrote: if you start from seed you'll guys end up having plants, not a 名媛直播... .

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So your bonsai, have never been a plant?
Please explain, why cant' a seed become a bonsai.

We are looking for something to spend a long time on, that's why we want to get into bonsai. I currently grow orchids and cacti. Are there no varieties that can grow from seed in an indoor environment? I doubt we'd have much time to actually start pruning and wiring them early on. I am completely content having a plant sitting around for a few years.

Auk wrote: Please don't buy a mallsai or anything from wholesale companies, road-side stalls, overprized and low quality things from websites and anything that has dead moss and glued rocks on top, that comes with a gauge, a water ornament or buddha statue. Do not buy anything that has the standard S-shape either.

Point taken, although I think we are going to start from seeds. For future reference though who is a reputable dealer, how do I identify one?


I think I might order the seeds from here. That is if I and up going with the Chinese elm. Are there any foul words against them as an indoor plant?

Plants.. Indoors.. It is a tricky thing. Cacti do well indoors, as they are made for dry environments. However, most plants very much dislike our indoor environment. Lack of moisture, llack of light, lack of airmovement.. All contribute to most plants beng unhappy indoors for most of the time.

If you grow from seed, you will probably find that ver a 4 uyear period your plant has a trunk of a cm or maybe 2 starting from seed. Now, if you take into account that you are looking at a 1:6 to 1:12 ratio between tree height and trunk diameter, you must realize: It will be a wait before you have anything near thick enough.

名媛直播 is about patience. Even if you start with a shrub from a garden centre, you will have plenty of work to make it rewarding. More people stop because of their plants dying then of it not being rewwarding. Especially people growing from seed who see their plant die the first time they trim roots (After growing it for 5 years first) stop, disappointed.

Samantha wrote: eangola

eangola wrote:

quinnmquinn wrote: if you start from seed you'll guys end up having plants, not a 名媛直播... .

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So your bonsai, have never been a plant?
Please explain, why cant' a seed become a bonsai.

Someone with no experience in bonsai starting to grow bonsai from seed will not know what to do with it.
They will have the common idea that bonsai are grown from small plants that are being kept small.
They will be eager to do things with their 'bonsai', cut the plant before it is ready, they'll want to trim and shape it and prune it more.
If it ever becomes a plant, they're lucky. The more likely scenario is that they will end up with a dead plant.

That are simply the statistics.

I do think it's good to try and grow from seed = as soon as you've learned to leave them alone.

Alright. We are going to start some from seed, but we'll also be getting some pre-bonsai to learn with and as a backup. Any recommended dealers?

On top of that, what indoor variety tree should I get? A short list of ones I am interested in Chinese Elm, Norfolk Island Pine, Jade, Buddhist Pine, and Chinese black olive. Feel free to shoot me down on any of those.

I might try to grow them with my orchids. I use a grow light for them and keep them on a humidity tray. I usually water them with the water from my betta's tanks because the water has nitrogen in it. I also have a mist fountain to add humidity to my room, would that be of any use?

One more to add to that list: Limeberry.

quinnmquinn wrote: On top of that, what indoor variety tree should I get? A short list of ones I am interested in Chinese Elm, Norfolk Island Pine, Jade, Buddhist Pine, and Chinese black olive. Feel free to shoot me down on any of those.

I'd stick to the species that are commonly used for bonsai:
Chinese elm
Buddhist pine (I personally don't like them as bonsai)
Jade (I neglect them, but they seem nearly immortal. Not considered to be real bonsai and hard to make a convincing tree out of it)

Norfolk Island Pine doesn't seem very suitable, looking at images I don't see any good bonsai.
I'm not familiar with Chinese black olive. They don't seem commonly used as bonsai, probably for a reason. Same goes for Limeberry. Of course that could be a lack in my knowledge. Looking at images they do seem to make good bonsai. Do note that Limeberry fruit will not reduce in size.

Humidity trays don't do much for humidity. The mist fountain could help.