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No, I am not joking.

All trees listed as indoor species at brussels bonsai is evergreen tree. The jade plant I suggested is also evergreen, but not a tree.

Lets try to solve this confusion with some statements a computer science student would understand:

There are two types of trees. Evergreens and decidious. Some evergreens can be kept indoors short or long term. Some evergreens cannot. No decidious trees can be kept indoors.

There are off cource other ways to classify tree. Like what many stores do to please the market. Indoor or outdoor. So using that classification one can say that all indoor trees is evergreens, but not all evergreens are indoor trees.

Or another classification. Temperate, subtropical or tropical. We use the same statements here. Some tropical trees can be kept short or long term in livingroom conditions, most cannot. No temperate or subtropical trees can be kept in livingroom conditions.

So we can conclude that a tree that can be kept indoors short or long term is both evergreen and tropical. But not all evergreen tropicals can be kept indoors.

Now......What the industry call an indoor tree is a species that needs to be protected from frost in winter. That is why they are produced in frost protected greenhouses. What you want and expect from an indoor tree is that it can be kept in livingroom conditions, right? I know this can be confusing as we often mix up indoors with livingroom conditions. Indoors means under a roof which is no issue really for most species as long as the environmental factors is correct for the tree. Livingroom conditions is more complicated. There are seasonal changes all over the world. No place on earth have constant 20c, stagnant, dry air and low light conditions. When putting a tree in that environment they live for a while. Some just months, some a few years.

I still think jade plants is the best for you. Do not back away because they are not flowering indoors. I do not know any tree that will flower If kept indoors.

Oh wow, I understand it might be?a lot info to get in the run like that, but I wouldn't change a word of what Tropfrog said here, try to read it all again.

1. I think it would have benefits for you in the future having access to outdoor, so that might be a good thing to consider on a long run.
2. If you can't go there for now, there are only a few species you can relly on, and I also think jades would be the best bet.
3. Flowers are a secondary thing for us, it's a bonus but not a priority, the illusion of miniature tree is way more important, but of course, being healthy.

Also, never heard about long term good results on the refrigerator thing, I've?seen people using ventilated and low temp coolers to get better fall colors when not too cold outside, but it's just meant for that, for presenting the tree with better fall colors, they were kept outside anyway...

BillMcEnaney wrote: Please tell me what tree to order.

On this list the best options to grow indoors is:

1:dwarf jade (yes, will not flower indoors just like jades)
2: ponytail palm
3: hawaian umbrella

I grow all of them indoors and they have done well for decades. However, there is a problem. None of them are trees really and hence could not be called bonsai in the strict definition of a bonsai. The ponytail do not even ramify, which is an absolute must to create anything that remotely looks like a bonsai.

If you really want it to be a tree, your best option is the ficus ginseng. It is a tree, but the small graft on an obese trunk makes it very difficult to create a bonsai from it. However, Nigel Saunders on youtube has managed to make an ginseng ficus to start look like a bonsai with some advanced trunk carving, making most of the trunk into nebari (surface roots). So it can be done.

The species I would recomend leave at the store is olive, fukien and?natal plum. They may need indoors to survive the winter, but they suffer badly in livingroom conditions.

Thank you, everyone. I'll grow carnivorous plants and orchids instead of trees that would suffer indoors. Tropfrog taught me botanical distinctions I needed to learn because microbiology is the only natural I've studied in-depth and loved. Before adopting the juniper, I should have read some bonsai books to protect trees from my mistakes. So, I'm glad my caregiver adopted the juniper, my cheery tree, and the maple because they grow well for him. After he planted the maple in his yard, it grew new red leaves. Since it looked almost dead here, it's where it belongs.

I wanted to grow bonsai trees to surround myself with beauty and help them thrive. But I should leave them to people who can give them a healthy home and care.

My best advice is still to focus on getting yourself outdoors every day. There are no thing more important for mental and physical health. It can be done. I do not know how, but it can. An outdoor hobby may help.

And a jade tree is a good option for indoors. Better than all orchids and carnivoures. It is virtually impossible to fail.

Going outdoors is essential, but sometimes, the snow may get too deep for me to wheel the chair to the landing. My caregiver works partly because I need him to put on my socks and shoes. He also moves my shower wheelchair into my shower stall. In the winter, getting strapped outside would be more dangerous than staying inside.

Alright, I'll buy a jade tree. Should it stay on the ramp landing during the summer and autumn?

In the winter you will not need to go outdoors. The trees are dormant and buried under the snow.

The Ramp landing is outdoors? Yes, jade trees love to spend the summer outdoors. Just like any indoor trees.

Thank you, Tropfrog. I thought I'd need to go outdoors to water the juniper in a cold frame, where it?would?stay to protect its roots. ?Also, I've heard?conflicting information from supposed experts. For example, a seed seller seemed mistaken in saying?that though some trees rest?outdoors in the winter, they can grow indoors all year. ?Someone from Brussels 名媛直播 even warned me to bring the juniper indoors for the winter.

When I gave someone a flytrap, I urged him to refrigerate it?from October 31 to February 1 to simulate South Carolina's winters. The plant?grew fast when he kept it warm all year, and then it?died. Sadly, nurseries in the US rarely tell customers that flytraps require?dormancy and yearly repotting. Nursery employees don't even ask buyers to snip flytrap flower stalks when those workers should know that flowering can kill a sick?flytrap. There's plenty of misinformation about them and trees.

Yes, the ramp landing is outdoors. I must roll the chair from my doorway and turn left on the landing to go down the ramp. Since a bump ends the ramp, I sometimes can't wheel the chair onto it in the winter. So, someone must shovel the ramp and its landing so I can safely wheel the chair outdoors.

I attend the Traditional Latin Mass each Sunday and leave here at 8 a.m.

BillMcEnaney wrote: Thank you, Tropfrog. I thought I'd need to go outdoors to water the juniper in a cold frame, where it?would?stay to protect its roots. ?Also, I've heard?conflicting information from supposed experts. For example, a seed seller seemed mistaken in saying?that though some trees rest?outdoors in the winter, they can grow indoors all year. ?Someone from Brussels 名媛直播 even warned me to bring the juniper indoors for the winter.

In winter a juniper should be placed on the ground be snowed over. No need for cold frame or watering. Just forget about it for 3-6 months during the winter. When it is safe to roll out the ramp it is pretty much time for first watering.

A random seed seller is not a bonsai expert. There are several companies out there that buy and sell seeds as comodities without ever growing them for themselves. The only thing they are experts in is making business, negotiate prices, efficient warehousing and logistics. The companies that gets the best reviews and grow fastest?are?the ones that deliver fastest and at best price. Simply because people tend to review products direct after recieving the goods. Far before they know If the seeds germinate or if it is the right species.

Brussels have a fairly good reputation as far as I heard. Living in the other side of the world, I have no own experience. The only thing that bother me is that well renomed bonsai nurceries sell trees as indoor trees that will not live for 6 months in livingroom conditions. But sadly most of them do. That is the way of the business.

In my opinion bonsai is a living art. Every piece of art have an artist. Those mass produced mallsais sold by milions every year has no artist behind them, just regular empoyees that try to make a living in third world countries. They have very little interest in making a fine piece of art, just to produce as many low cost replicas as possible in any given time. That has very little to do with bonsai really.

I get most of my bonsai starter materials from garden center authum sales. In the outdoor plant section at the end of the growing season. They are not bonsai yet. But I know I can make them bonsai. I know I can make them into art. And maybe the most important thing, I know they are hardy to my area.

I have bought some more or less finished bonsai as well. But only if I know and respect the creator and most often after they are gone. Only to keep their name and legacy alive for a little longer.

I too have bought some mass produced mallsai. When I do that it is because I cannot find them as nurcery specimens. The only reason I buy them is to take cuttings to grow into my own bonsai, my own art.

Some species?that cannot be found on my marked I do grow from seeds. It is fun to grow trees from seeds, but not recomended for beginners. Simply because it takes 5-10 years before they can say they grow bonsai. Before that it is just seedlings, saplings and young trees.

I know it's a mistake to assume that nursery employees are experts, even at bonsai nurseries. When I asked a nursery whether storing a juniper in a cold frame for the winter was alright, she said, "Sure, if it's heated." The seed seller's comment is still too hard for me to believe. So, I still hope she'll tell me why she thinks outdoor dormancy is optional for maples. Knowing a snow-covered bonsai juniper would live safely outdoors would have calmed my fear and worry. Thanks for showing me that the tree would have survived here. I'll order another one.

Let's hope I can buy some little saplings with only two or three limbs like the one in the bonsai beginner's book from Brussels 名媛直播. With that many limbs, I can make the tree look attractive and won't butcher it. It would be best to copy another tree's design because I'm not an artist. My ninth-grade art teacher asked, "Bill, what are you doing here? You know you can't draw." But I proved her wrong when I turned an upside-down "25" into a mouse head.?