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Posted 5 months 1 day ago #83977

Tropfrog wrote: Hmm. I do not think any plant likes beeing kept in refrigerator and I advice against it.

It is just that some crazy ideas come up over and over again, like this one. I have never seen anyone come back with a report of success or failure. That usually means failure. If you do try, please come back with a report no matter success or not. There are almost more to learn from failures than from successes.

Indoors is a good place for tropical evergreens in winter. But tgey too need to be outdoors in summer for good growth, development and tight ramification.

If you want to grow plants indoors I suggest understory plants and some South african succulents.

Echoing Tropfrog, the refrigerator idea has popped up many times. Nobody has ever cone back a year later and said it worked, in at least 7 years.?

There is more to winter than temperature. The fan blowing cold air in dries out every thing, including the soil and tree. The tree actually wants a few hours of sunshine.?

You can try, but it just seems unlikely.?
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Posted 5 months 19 hours ago #83979
?I'll?grow only indoor trees since I'd hate to make any tree's life difficult.
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Posted 5 months 17 hours ago #83980
There are no such thing as indoor trees. There are not one tree in the whole world that has evolved indoors nor live naturally indoors.

What the industry calls indoor trees is tropical trees that needs to be protected from frost in winter. The best way to keep this trees in temperate areas is outdoors in summer and protected from frost in light and 5-10 degrees. Livingroom environment is not good, but acceptable in winter. In summer they should be outdoors.

Growing trees all year indoors in livingroom conditions is to make both the trees life and yours difficult.

I suggest you get jade trees. They are not really trees, but succulents. Can be pruned to look like bonsai. The only harm you do to them by growing indoors is that they will not flower. Other than that they will be in growth phase all year without harm and really grow and develop faster indoors than when kept frost free in winter.
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Posted 5 months 14 hours ago #83981
I may give up bonsai to grow carnivorous plants again. Orchids would be even better because they can thrive on a windowsill. Then, trees?wouldn't let trees suffer merely because I wanted to grow them.
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Posted 5 months 13 hours ago #83982
It is by far not all orchids that can be grown on a windowsill. Orchids is a group with 25-30000 species. I know one species that thrive and rebloom relyably in windowsills and a handful that do fairly well and rebloom sometimes. But that is in my location. You may find some more that works in your location if you get more sun in winter than I do.

Venus flytraps can survive amazingly many winters indoors. But they do not thrive and eventually die because of skipped dormacies. There are a few carnivour nephentes and sundews that can be grown on a windowsill.

Again: My recomendation is jade plant for indoors growing of something that looks like a bonsai. I also recomend anyone to arrange so they can get outdoors daily. With that comes the possibility to grow bonsai where they belong.
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Posted 5 months 8 hours ago #83983
My care assistant found a mini greenhouse for the ramp landing so I could grow some evergreens and jade. He also adopted the juniper and cherry trees to plant in his yard. Since you said a jade tree wouldn't flower indoors, I hesitated to order one. But I'll buy one or two.

What about flytraps that die because they don't rest indoors? They won't have that problem here. The Flytrap Care Nursery tells me that the refrigerator method could be better, but it works. I keep those plants in a fridge at 45 degrees Fahrenheit from October 31 to February 1. After leaving the refrigerator, they break dormancy in about two weeks. Before that, I rinse them in distilled water and re-pot them in New Zealand long-fiber sphagnum moss.

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Posted 4 months 3 weeks ago #83999
Is it alright to start a potted evergreen seed indoors before putting outdoors this winter because snow could kill a tiny seedling?
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Posted 4 months 3 weeks ago #84000

BillMcEnaney wrote: Is it alright to start a potted evergreen seed indoors before putting outdoors this winter because snow could kill a tiny seedling?

Snow does not kill trees. The woods are full of trees that were seedlings and lived through years of snow.?

Trees have evolved over millions of years to fit the environment where they live. The trees you see outside in the woods are descendants of trees within a couple of miles and they know how to handle the local weather. Go outside in spring, find some seedlings, put them in a pot, and keep them all outside. Outdoor weather where they evolved is a requirement for them. Bringing them out of their evolved habitat will stress them.?

Some of them will die anyway.? The pine trees in my creek bed drop hundreds of cones every year with dozens of seeds in each cone. If one percent a year survived there would be nothing but pine trees out there.
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Posted 4 months 3 weeks ago #84001
Thank you. Now that I've read your reply, my question sounds silly.
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Posted 4 months 3 weeks ago #84004
Trees from temperate regions germinate in spring. That is also an adaptation to climate and environment. When the trees drop their seeds, colect and sow emedantly. Come spring when it is excactly the right time they germinate. It is different time on different places, but the seeds knows when it is time.

If you sow now, germination will happen to early and the sapling will not be as strong come winter.
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