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leatherback wrote:

Lisasa wrote: ! I am in Netherlands BTW

Won't hold that against you. I used to live there myself

In the Netherlands, Deshima bonsai, partner of bonsai empire (The bonsai store on this website is their online store) is reliabe. As are places like 名媛直播hut and bonsaiplaza

Good to know. I will visit them one day! Mallsai sellers also keep mallsai outdoors? Otherwise, how can they sell alive trees all the time?

mallsai can survive and becoming great bonsai as Marco showed us on his progression of his Elm mallsai:
www.bonsaiempire.com/forum/progressions/...rogression-1996-2018

leatherback wrote:

Tropfrog wrote:

Auk wrote:

Tropfrog wrote: I am not sure how Creating bonsai from mallsai would demand more horticulture expertice than Creating bonsai from any other material.

Then show us your Ficus Ginseng from Ikea that you have turned into a beautiful bonsai.

Ficus ginseng from IKEA is not a mallsai, it is an ordinary house plant.

Nonsense, sorry.

I am sure I have seen serveral posts from top 5 poster in this forum claiming it is not bonsai, but an ordinary house plant. Just trying to adapt here. Sorry about that.

leatherback wrote:

Tropfrog wrote:

Auk wrote:

Tropfrog wrote: I am not sure how Creating bonsai from mallsai would demand more horticulture expertice than Creating bonsai from any other material.

Then show us your Ficus Ginseng from Ikea that you have turned into a beautiful bonsai.

Ficus ginseng from IKEA is not a mallsai, it is an ordinary house plant.

Nonsense, sorry.

Are you seriously saying that that awful plant can be called a bonsai - or even a mallsai???
It's just a mutilated houseplant. Mallsai have at least had something that looks a bit like bonsai training, while these Ginseng's have not.

FrankC wrote: mallsai can survive and becoming great bonsai as Marco showed us on his progression of his Elm mallsai:
www.bonsaiempire.com/forum/progressions/...rogression-1996-2018

I'm trying to do the same with an elm I got 2 years ago. I'll post pictures in 2042!

Auk wrote:

leatherback wrote:

Tropfrog wrote:

Auk wrote:

Tropfrog wrote: I am not sure how Creating bonsai from mallsai would demand more horticulture expertice than Creating bonsai from any other material.

Then show us your Ficus Ginseng from Ikea that you have turned into a beautiful bonsai.

Ficus ginseng from IKEA is not a mallsai, it is an ordinary house plant.

Nonsense, sorry.

Are you seriously saying that that awful plant can be called a bonsai - or even a mallsai???
It's just a mutilated houseplant. Mallsai have at least had something that looks a bit like bonsai training, while these Ginseng's have not.

It is sold as bonsai
It is mass produced
It is not a bonsai

To me this is a mallsai

leatherback wrote: It is sold as bonsai
It is mass produced
It is not a bonsai

To me this is a mallsai

According to that logic, this is then a mallsai too:


I disagree. Mallsai is the term for cheap, low quality, mass-produced trees, that have been wired, shaped and pruned and try to look like a bonsai (but don't really succeed in that). These can be trained to become good bonsai (as Marco has proven).

Other plants that have not had any such training and cannot be trained into real bonsai are just that: plants. Cactii, coconuts, figs... they have nothing to do with bonsai.