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Chinese Elm lost most foliage

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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27525
Sure. Please see pic attached. You'll realise the tree is more upset now; it started shedding again immediately after I watered (and fed) it 4 days ago. By "immediately" I mean I watered it in the morning and by evening some had already fallen and more and more leaves fell since. This time, like during summer, I'd argue that 60% of leaves that fall become yellow before falling and the other 40% are still green when they fall. Ever since I got it, the tree has always been on a window sill and never outside.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27538
There's some of life spouting up, at the top. Maybe it want's to be outside (sort of like a cat, staring at birds) :unsure:
Your soil looks like it would hold water really well. It doesn't look like it's dying, right yet. Cross your fingers, and be careful with the watering. Let it dry out, but not completely.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27540
Thanks, Samantha. It will be impossible to place it outside, as I live in a flat. When you say the soil holds water well, is this a good or a bad thing?
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27551
It is indoors. Over the past weeks temperatures have dropped. I am pretty sure you have a heater running. Plants hate heaters, especially those that are normally dormant in winter. If it is near a heater, move it. If you have the option, put it in a room with less heater use. And.. Consider giving the tree a bit more legroom by transplanting in a bigger pot. Repot properly in spring. If you cannot move it outside, using coarse bonsai substrate is not optimal. I would leave it in a substrate with very high organizics, like cocofibre based potting soil.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27555

leatherback wrote: If you cannot move it outside, using coarse bonsai substrate is not optimal. I would leave it in a substrate with very high organizics, like cocofibre based potting soil.


Can you explain?
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27556
bonsai substrate is made to drain very fast, and requires watering till it runs out at the bottom, with watering everty day. That is for most people to cumbersome. Forgetting watering for one day may mean death for your plant.

The more serious people are about bonsai, the more time & dedication is involved. Many people with indoor trees have one or two, and actually are loooking for a styled houseplant, not a bonsai.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27570

leatherback wrote: If it is near a heater, move it. If you have the option, put it in a room with less heater use.

Thanks. It is the less heated room (the kitchen), which has an average of 55% relative humidity. Given that putting the tree outside is not an option, unfortunately, is there anything I could do to help with humidity? Remember that the soil keeps moist for many many days, 10 or more.

leatherback wrote: Consider giving the tree a bit more legroom by transplanting in a bigger pot... If you cannot move it outside, using coarse bonsai substrate is not optimal.

Done. Bought a plastic pot twice as big as the old ceramic one (I hope the material doesn't make a difference).

Now I suspect that my watering is harming the tree. As mentioned before, it takes many days (10+) for the soil to be almost dry. When I water it next time, do you think I should use less water, for example, not waiting until water drains from the bottom?
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27573
watering till it drains from the bottom is less usefull when using regular potting soil. I find it gets too wet. It is all a bit tricky. :( I water by feeling, so its hard to explain how to keep your tree happy. You have to develop a sense of care for it, I suppose.
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