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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27210

MiguelMartinho wrote: AUK thanks for replying What do you mean by that


I read you wired one tree, but I think it was not this one?
Mallsai are young plants with decorative materials like (often) dead moss, a rock, and pebbles on top of the soil. They often have a typical S-shape or if they'r junipers, a bend to the right. They are not bonsai but are sold as such. Your tree resembles one of those.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27212
thanks AUK your right. This tree was planted as a cutting and wired from young buy a friend of mine into the shape it forms, my other bonsai i wired myself at the beginning of the season hoping that one day once mature i will be able to shape it into a pierneef style. i recently planted the moss, I read up that moss is planted as a form of display i read it can help a tree remain cool in the summer and also help warm it in winter but also sometimes holds alot of moisture even thought its an example of a mallsai i believe it still a powerful form of nature and can be changed to no longer be called and ordinary mallsai . although i dont have as much as experience as i wish i did for now. And as i have learnt that my juniper in a pot is not as mature i wish it would be it will come in time but i would love to learn from people with experience such as you guys and with your advice hopefully turn it into a beautiful and powerful form of art work as i believe it has after many years the potential to become a great 名媛直播. Although it is now a common mallsai example i hope that one day with the advice given once mature and with time and patients i can change that and turn it into something beautiful. I see a bonsai tree as symbol of wisdom experience and knowledge, i hope someone can agree with me.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27213

MiguelMartinho wrote: Although it is now a common mallsai example i hope that one day with the advice given once mature and with time and patients i can change that and turn it into something beautiful. I see a bonsai tree as symbol of wisdom experience and knowledge, i hope someone can agree with me.


I did not say it is a mallsai, but that it is shaped like a mallsai. Apparently the person who shaped it did that with a picture of a tree in mind - but that was the picture of a mallsai, which is a very bad example.

I suggest you start looking at what trees look like, what good bonsai look like, and try and see the differece. Look at some masterpieces and try to find out why they look so good - and why yours doesn't.

Yes, it can become a bonsai, but it will take many years of growth, study, practice and training.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27215

MiguelMartinho wrote: This tree was planted as a cutting and wired from young buy a friend of mine into the shape it forms


I guess that means I was right, Auk ;)

Miguel, can you please try to use a bit more punctuation so that we can read what you're writing more clearly? I understand if you aren't great at English, but it makes it easier for us to understand your problem and help you.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27221
Miguel: I understand what you're saying without any problems. I won't bash your tree.
What I will do is welcome you to a very long term and patience minded hobby/art form. If you're truly looking to delve into 名媛直播, do a lot of reading and see if you can join a club.
I think it's spring for you now, so pot it in a big pot, and put it out side. Don't name it because it may die and I'd hate to read on here that you were heart broken over it. You will kill trees, it's an unfortunate part of this hobby/art.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27239
I think this plant will mak a semi cascade or cascade. I think this is what you meant when you first posted. I was slow to get into the thread. It will in time make a decent tree, but you need to grow it on for a while. There was a South African forum which you might find better as it is much more specific. I would pot this on into a larger pot, plenty of fertiliser for a year, pruning as it grows. You need to find a good book and read up on how to grow not just Junipers but all trees. Also search for a club, there are clubs in your country so hopfully there is one not too far away from you.
I tried to send you a PM but could not find how I will have another look.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #27252

m5eaygeoff wrote: I think this plant will mak a semi cascade or cascade. I think this is what you meant when you first posted


I think he really meant to ask what the current style of the plant is, not what the best choice for a future style would be, as he wrote:

"This tree was [...] wired from young by a friend of mine into the shape it forms"

I think that's a problem. So many people have the wrong idea about what bonsai are supposed to look like. Too many people have the image of a mallsai in their head. Even artificial 'bonsai' are shaped that way...
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