名媛直播

Claudiu wrote: Dude chill. I was just trying to say to the man who opened the topic that he doesn't have to be discouraged by people who say that it's hard and his tree is a piece of crap.
I've learned over the years about photography, photo editing and bonsai all on my own. I've been working in the IT dept. for over 13 years, also learned on my own.
For everything I do or you do there will be 1000 people that do it better.
The idea of my post was for him to overcome the criticize and do this if he likes the hobby.
By the way the critique must be constructive. Forums are for beginners that search help from others that know better. You seem to be forgetting that.
I am one of those beginners. And no, I can't show you some masterpiece because I don't have any. I only have trees in training. That doesn't mean I can't know the the theory.

You can self-teach yourself anything. That's what books are for. Anyone who can read, and has a desire to learn can do it. That doesn't make anyone special, it also doesn't make it simple; it makes it a possibility.

I don't know if you play any instrument, but if you read about how to properly play a cello, how to practice, how to get better at it, bow technique, finger technique, etc etc... I assure you that alone won't make you a good cellist, in fact, you'll grab a cello and would fail to produce proper sound. You learn the theory, then it takes decades of practice to actually play good. The theory for playing a classical instrument might seem simple, but in reality it is far far from simple.

If you want to take magnificent photographs you can read a lot about how an SLR camera works, and all the theory about digital editing. After learning all that, you have to take thousands of pictures before you actually take photographs with an artistic value. The theory might seem simple, but the art is not.

Same goes with 名媛直播.... you might understand the theory, have a general idea of how to create 名媛直播. But it is only when you get your hands at it, after learning the theory, that the real learning happens. And that's when you realize how complicated and beautiful 名媛直播 is. And that's what makes it enjoyable; you realize it is not about having a beautiful miniature tree on your possession, but about the road to get there. Creating the harmonic, and sometimes chaotic beauty that takes centuries for nature to do, is not simple. It is really, really difficult. 名媛直播 is not "as difficult as people think it is", it is actually more difficult, and very underrated in the western world.

I have been playing cello for more than 20 years. I am also an engineer who works on the scientific research department. 名媛直播 is as hard as everything I do in my professional life.

brkirkland22 wrote: As a young designer 15 years ago, I made the mistake of responding to an amazed client's question "How did you do that?!" with "Oh, it's easy." After the presentation, my mentor pulled me to the side with a grin on his face. "You did great," he said. "But, don't ever tell someone that what you do is easy. You've studied & worked very hard to be able to do the things you do. What's easy to you now was not easy to you then. Don't pass off the sacrifices you've made as 'easy', because this is not."

It does take time to fully grasp the concepts of anything, including bonsai. Even the 'simple' basics take time to master. I don't know how many times I've heard or read some snippet of information concerning a pruning, wiring, potting, training technique and not fully grasped it. How many trees have I killed over the years? How many botched wiring jobs? How many broken branches? And then one spring, you've spent a few hours pruning & wiring an old friend, and the movements are familiar, and the branches are where you wanted them, and the wiring is clean, and the soft breeze is wonderful. It was so easy, right! No, it has taken years to be able to do this. I am an amateur, I still make mistakes, I am still learning, and I am always amazed when something finally clicks.

Keep learning.

These are some of the wisest words I've heard, regarding 名媛直播. I thought it deserved to be reposted.
Thanks BRKIRIKLAND

After reading all of these posts on what is easy and not easy.. doesn't it depend on the person who is making the attempt. Sometimes we post things that don't read as well as we would say in person. I don't need to rip apart what someone is saying, to understand their point.
Some people take to things much easier than other people.

To all,
I just returned from vacation and spent the morning reading all the posts. Claudiu, Thank you for your post. I understood were you were coming from and what you saying. Rather than arguing over what he meant or didn't mean, It would have been nice to see more people with encouraging words than trying to rip this mans post apart. I don't think he really meant harm to the bonsai community. He apparently enjoys this hobby himself. I believe some have taken his post the wrong way. Thank you to those who did post positive things. Maybe joining this forum was a bad way to learn and read more about Bonasi. Cause it seems some like to beat others down around here.

That's why I am here ... to learn.
The discussion degenerated a little bit and we got fired up. I'm sorry if I went to far with some things.
Doesn't matter anymore now. Let's end this futile dispute.

You do not have to apologize for trying to help another person!

Thank you Dub but I see their point too, and I understand it now.
I just don't want to argue anymore. The real issue is not bonsai .. the issue is what forum conduct should be all about.

Claudiu wrote: the issue is what forum conduct should be all about.

I agree!

Claudiu wrote: The real issue is not bonsai .. the issue is what forum conduct should be all about.

The real issue is whether bonsai is easy or not and I've seen some very inspiring and wise words that I will keep for future reference.
The long toes... it really continues to amaze me how easily people are offended. The issue is NOT what forum conduct should be about, that is what you want to make of it.

Sorry if that offended you.

People are so quick to jump on people on the forums. Maybe because you will probably never see that person ever. But I have been on many forums and they are all the same and they all lack a certain amount of respect for others. I could care less if it's easy or hard to do. I'm interested in the hobby regardless and willing to give it everything I have. I highly doubt that Claudiu meant that bonsai was an easy hobby or an extremely hard hobby. I believe a few took his word the wrong way and decided to take the thread off topic.

I have to admit that the responses of few to this thread could turn away a new member. Is that what we want for this community?