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the main differance between a nursery bought vine and your air layer is that a branch the size you are planning to work with will have very little foliage and will be hard to grow a sustaining root system if it roots at all.nursery stock has the roots and can be worked with immediatly

the reason airlayers work is the flow of energy and nutrients going from the leaves to the roots is disrupted while the flow from the roots to the leaves continues. the plant therfore is making food but has nowhere to store it so it grows new roots for that purpose.the more food making leaves above the cut the more roots are needed to grow to store the food.airlayering a large section (3 to 5 foot) with plenty of leaves is what should be done. once roots are formed the trunk can be cut to a more suitable length . anyway it takes wisteria 7 to 10 years of developement to flower.taking a large peice will speed up this process

please dont be discourged we are just trying to help you. by the way me and my father are planning some wisteria airlayering this spring also hopfully it works for us all

No, I am not discouraged I realize you are helping me And I am very grateful for all the advice about creating my bonsai. I was afraid all my questions would begin to grow tiresome lol especially since I am a beginner and I must be asking the most basic questions.

Yes, the more I read and look into it the more I see that you are right. I will follow your directions, and hopefully we will all have nice trees in the end.

Would it be acceptable to maybe just dig up a smaller vine that is 5-6ft?? instead of Air-Layering from my HUGE vine? because I have several small vines growing by themselves that are the right length and width that you specified.

Also, when I do cut it down from 3-5ft. to make it more reasonable size, how do I prevent where I cut it from becoming an ugly scare??

And If I intend to make this a Root-over-Rock bonsai, if I follow your directions, how long must I wait before I begin putting it over the rock? If I dig up one of the vines I should be able to begin very soon right?

Again, Thank you both I probably would have ruined my vines, and wasted my time if it wasn't for your good advice!

~LuLu

oh yes a young vine with roots will speed up the process by years. you will want to do this as soon as the ground thaws or at least before leaves start to break. you will also be able to cut the vine down to size before you replant this will be just the opposite of the airlayer when dealing with foliage. you will undoubtedly damage roots when digging it up and do not want too much foliage because it will over tax the roots before they have time to repair themselves. try not to worry about scarring as of yet just try to get it happy in its new home.

Ok, so the ground is thawed where I live, and there are no leaves on any trees, I dig up the vine and put it in a pot.

Now, do I wait 2-3 weeks for it to adjust and then cut it down to size? or do I cut it down to size right away??

~LuLu

I am a big fan of cutting to size first, then move. the reasoning: If you cut it, and it starts to loose moisture, the roots are very capable of dealing with it. The wound is sealed quickly, and the roots bring up moisture. If you first cut the roots, the plant will have less resources to close the above ground cuts and/or the lost moisture. At the moment I have 2 trees that I am digging up ni a week or so. They both have been trimmed in autumn.

Eeek! I already dug up my vine!....(problem solved, I will create two vines!

Is there a certain angle I should cut the vine at when I cut it to my desired size??

And what is the ideal size? 1-2ft.??

~LuLu

best way to do it is find a bud or branch near the cut point getting as close as possible without damaging it cut down and away from it at a steep angle. growing this bud/branch as a leader will help close off the wound as the branch grows

manofthetrees wrote: best way to do it is find a bud or branch near the cut point getting as close as possible without damaging it cut down and away from it at a steep angle. growing this bud/branch as a leader will help close off the wound as the branch grows

"As close as possible" is a little tricky, in my experience, but probably depends on defenition. I always leave say half an inch of stem above the bud. Clipping close to buds may cause that bud to die off. Once the leaves have opene, you can trimm away the little stub just next to the still living tisue.

Ok, thank you both very much!

What should I do if the first branch or bud on my vine is several feet up??

I only intended to make this 2ft. tall at most, but the first bud is higher up than that. Is it alright to cut below the first bud/branch?? Or should I find a new vine that had a bud at my desired height?

This takes a lot more work than I previously thought! haha, but it will be worth it.

~LuLu

When yuor vine is properly rooted, you can cut it back lower; It should create a profusion of buds lower on the plant. For now, don't; The plant will need energy to establish itself.