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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26577
Hi

This is the first time I?m trying to make my own bonsai creation from a nursery plant, a Juniper chinensis `blue alps`.
I hope for some tips from you guys, if I?m on the right track with the first rough pruning and wiring I?ve made so far. I try to see some sort of a triangle of needle-clouds, mainly from the primary trunk and afew clouds on the secondary. The thing is, I don?t have any experiance of how the tree structure will develop during time which makes it hard to visualize and plan the bonsai in a later stage.
Feel free to comment of what is bad/good, what would you change and so on. Any help would be great. The trunkt height is 44 cm.
I attached a photo of the present shape together with a painted visualization of how it maybe could be like in afew years?

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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26582
Pot it in the ground. The trunk is way slim compared to its height
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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26606
I?m not sure if I can train it in the ground with or without the pot (not sure what you meant). I live in mid Sweden and can expect about -20°C so it needs to be protected. Not inside of course, but in some kind of shelter where I can protect it from deep frost. I?m not sure what temperature a chinese juniper may survive.
Do you think it?s possible to instead develop the trunk thickness in a "trainer pot" (or what it?s called in english, but a larger plastic bonsai pot)?
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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26621
I actually think it is a great idea if you use a training pot. Maybe a 30 Liter pot(near 10 gallons).
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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26631
Potting in very large pots slow growth and is bad for the health.

Check, but most junipers have no trouble with _20 when in the ground and or sheltered. I do not bring mine in.
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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26643
If i choose to plant it in the ground, should I put down the entire nursery pot or just the tree?
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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26644

leatherback wrote: Potting in very large pots slow growth and is bad for the health. .


You get soggy spots that turn sour, and rot your roots, among , many other complications Knowing, just when to get the bigger pot, is an art, that I'm still working on, but it works. Then again... when to dig it out of the garden, and trim the roots.

There's so much to learn, about, these, little trees. :unsure: .

Just plant the tree, this time of year, try not to disturb the roots to much.
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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26645
Well the whole point of planting your tree in the ground is to let it grow without getting root bound, and also because of the nutrients in the soil, so why would you want to put the pot in the ground as well
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Posted 8 years 3 months ago #26671

Mossy moss wrote: Well the whole point of planting your tree in the ground is to let it grow without getting root bound, and also because of the nutrients in the soil, so why would you want to put the pot in the ground as well


To protect it from frost, if you want to keep it in that pot if it doesn't have to grow much bigger.
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Posted 8 years 2 months ago #26774
Yeah I have a friend who keeps all his shohin and mame trees (that have very small pots- in actually larger pots filled with soil- i don't know how to explain it, but the smaller pot is places in the soil of the much larger pot, and it protects the roots from freezing, and the plant can also grow into the larger pot, but when a show comes he can just pull the plant out, and cut the roots that have gone through the drainage hole, and he has a shohin bonsai- i wish i had a picture but I hope this helps
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