名媛直播

Hey, folks!

Just curious. I got my Chinese elm yesterday but thought I would check in here.
There are quite a few twigs that don't carry leaves, so was wondering if they usually carry more leaves or if it is simply a matter of time?
How do you know if the twig is dead?

As I just got it I know there may be some re-adjusting etc.. Mainly curious

Hope the questions makes sense.

Best,
Audun

Kraterian wrote: Just curious. I got my Chinese elm yesterday
As I just got it I know there may be some re-adjusting etc.. Mainly curious

Hope the questions makes sense.

No, it doesn't. If you only got it yesterday, it cannot have started adjusting and dropping leaves yet, so apparently you got it like this?
If you're not satisfied with it and think it is not healthy, you should contact the supplier.

Not sure why, if you are into bonsai, you would want to buy a plant like this though.

Thanks Auk.

Personally, I love it, but I am simply looking to learn.
I have seen trees like this with fuller branches, so I was checking if it is common for trees to occationally
drop more leaves..

Kraterian wrote: Personally, I love it, but I am simply looking to learn.

I see a standard S-shaped, mass produced, low quality tree... but yeah,... for learning it will do.

I have seen trees like this with fuller branches, so I was checking if it is common for trees to occationally
drop more leaves..

We see it very often on this forum - chinese elms dropping leaves shortly after being acquired (but again - it shouldn't be dropping leaves so soon after acquiring it). It may need to adjust, but do make sure you give it proper care - correct location, proper watering are essential. Look up the care guidelines (on this page under Tree species, but you will find lots of resources with proper information)

Are you trying to discourage people Auk?
I'm just starting out looking for discussions, and people sharing their experiences.

You were the only one responding to my previous post, simply stating "It's not a real bonsai".

Thanks for your comments, but don't step on the saplings.

Kraterian wrote: Are you trying to discourage people Auk?
I'm just starting out looking for discussions, and people sharing their experiences.

You were the only one responding to my previous post, simply stating "It's not a real bonsai".

Thanks for your comments, but don't step on the saplings.

Erm... no? Just telling the truth and acknowledging it is good for learning purposes?

No, I've been reading your posts. And each and every time you reply, you are basically just plain discouraging.

I understand that you may find it frustrating to see all these new people not fully understanding what is, and what is not a 名媛直播.
I was literally just reading this.
I quote: "名媛直播 is very subjective and personal: many see bonsai as an oriental art form, some see it as an extreme form of gardening. Others think it is a simple hobby. It is all of these things and more. To the question of what bonsai is, the simplest, most profound answer I could come up with was: "it is a small tree in a pot". - end of quote.
You have probably read this book yourself.

Being blunt is simply unhelpful. There is nothing wrong with being excited about the little things in life, like buying your first bonsai tree, no matter the quality of the tree.

Just curious, your first bonsai tree. Do you remember it, and do you still have it?

Kraterian wrote: Just curious, your first bonsai tree. Do you remember it, and do you still have it?

I rememeber seeing my first bonsai. It was in Amsterdam and it looked like a real tree, but miniaturized. Absolutely stunning.
It did raise my interest, but I was young and living with my parents, and I understood I would not be able to simply reproduce a tree like that.
My first tree was a present. It was in a box - a relational gift from a supplier. It had been in that box for a few days, probably. The soil dried out and changed into a brick, and obviously, the tree died.

Many years later, I started visiting exhibitions - with real bonsai. I knew I would never be able to create something like that. However, once I was living on my own, I did start studying, bought books, and followed workshops. Under the supervision of the trainers I did create a few pre-bonsai and landscapes, and indeed, most of them did not survive. I also started purchasing nursery material and planted seeds. Of these seeds, I still have a few, now 20 years later. One of them, unfortunately, died a few days ago. Several of the trees are thriving. They are not great bonsai - as I did not use the proper techniques in the beginning. But they were my first attempts and I will not get rid of them just because they are not great.

Meanwhile, I am learning (yes, after 20 years I am still learning) and getting better. One of my trees, hopefully, will be part of an exhibition in June.

名媛直播 is not that subjective. It is, indeed, a tree in a pot. Not a houseplant or a cutting in a pot, but something that looks like a real tree in nature.

I am sorry if you feel that I am being discouraging. I do not agree with it though. I am telling the truth. I do not see the point in sugar coating. If people are really into bonsai, I will encourage them - even if the result is mediocre. If you have really read my posts, you will know that.

Auk wrote: If people are really into bonsai, I will encourage them - even if the result is mediocre.

That is very true, and I thank you for being straightforward and honest, Auk.

-wondering why people keep commenting on Auk's answers, instead of reading, taking away from it what they need and ignoring his focussed no-mallsai-here energy-

And.. Let's go back to the original discussion and tree at hand?
The tree you show here is fairly sparce in foliage. In a way a good thing: It has reduced the water needs of the plant, which will make it easier to adjust to the new location & during transport.

Branches without leaves are most likely dead. The best way to tell is to really look at the branches. A branch that is dead, has a slightly different bark; It is dried out, a little tinner (You can often actually see where the life stops) and the bark might be a little shrivveld. Over time, you will learn to tell the difference.
Some people advice to scratch the bark and look under it. For me this ia a bad habit. It is a little like scratching the skin on your arm to tell whether there is still blood flowing. It is intrusive, hurtfull and leads to potential infection.

I am a fan of the patient strategy: Just wait a few weeks. If the whole tree is growing, all branches that are alive will have leaves.

Main focus for the next 3 mnths should be on keeping the tree healthy. No trimming, repotting etc. Just let it sit, and get happy. After that we can look into optios to get this away from mallsai, into the direction of bonsai. Because I do agree with Auk. It is unfortunate that so many people get lured by mass produced green S-es.

Where are you keeping it, and how do you care for it?