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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32520
I have a trident maple and I am working on branch ramification bit not sure if I should do the hole tree or not, and I live in Missouri so when would be the best time to do so right now or first on June? Any help or feed back would be helpful thank you.
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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32534

Travi51 wrote: I have a trident maple and I am working on branch ramification bit not sure if I should do the hole tree or not, and I live in Missouri so when would be the best time to do so right now or first on June? Any help or feed back would be helpful thank you.


I would chop your tree maybe on the first branch and grow a new leader, or let the tree grow wild and get thicker for a few years. It of course depends on what you want!. If you only want to practice, and work on ramification, and be happy with a tree that size then go for it. I wouldn't defoliate though, I would cut the secondary branches to the second node, that way you get leaves growing closer to each other.
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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32535

Travi51 wrote: I have a trident maple and I am working on branch ramification bit not sure if I should do the hole tree or not, and I live in Missouri so when would be the best time to do so right now or first on June? Any help or feed back would be helpful thank you.


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And I meant branches growing closer. not leaves. Partial defoliation also works to wake up dormant buds and grow new branches, I am not sure how well it works in maple though. It works quite well in boxwood since boxwood grows really tight branches. I think for maple ramification you want to use the cut back method, and defoliation in the future, to show your trees with small leaves.
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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32574
What do you mean by chop the tree? I would like it to grow bit bigger and I would like it to have more branches and look Fuller. It's already pretty thick and I planned on wiring it this winter. Thank you for your help
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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32576

Travi51 wrote: What do you mean by chop the tree? I would like it to grow bit bigger and I would like it to have more branches and look Fuller. It's already pretty thick and I planned on wiring it this winter. Thank you for your help


Chopping: Cutting it off somewhere lower
Do a read & search on the size of bonsai. It really is worth getting the trunk to be thicker. Size is -almost- everything. Otherwise you will probably find in 5 years that you do not like this tree with a think trunk, and you have to then start over.
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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32595

Travi51 wrote: What do you mean by chop the tree? I would like it to grow bit bigger and I would like it to have more branches and look Fuller. It's already pretty thick and I planned on wiring it this winter. Thank you for your help


It is not already pretty thick. But if you are happy with the thickness and just want to get some practice, that's your choice.

Would you mind posting a picture with a cup? or a coin? so we can tell exactly how thick it is? it might be thicker than what it looks in the picture, specially because of the lack of tapper.
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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32659
Here is a pic with a bic lighter
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Posted 7 years 8 months ago #32664
it is exactly as thick as it looks. Not very.

I would say, maybe 2 cm thick. Using the rule of thum of trees not taller than 12 times the thickness of the trunk would give you a maximum tree of 24cm tall.
In the end it is your choice.
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