Carving trunk
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I've been talking to my dad who enjoyed bonsai as a young man but left them with his ex wife (I didn't know that he enjoyed bonsai).
Together recently, we collected a rather nice little oak with a stunning little trunk, nice taper and structure, with a bit too many branches on the trunk. It's about 2ft, and it will be reduced...
This is when, we got into a disagreement...
He was saying that blunt cuts and clear man made cuts on the tree don't matter as long as they're concealed from the front of the tree.
I was thinking that although the tree should have a front from which it is displayed, it is also important that it should also be presentable from from every angle, and obvious trunk chops should be concealed by carving, if they are atall necessary. These blunt cuts annoy me and I want my trees to look good from any angle. I want to know ways to conceal them!
Anyway, He was saying that this is nonsense and it is not bonsai, when you work on part of the tree to make it look good if it is not the front.
What do you guys think?
Also, what about carving? Is there any controversy about this?
Together recently, we collected a rather nice little oak with a stunning little trunk, nice taper and structure, with a bit too many branches on the trunk. It's about 2ft, and it will be reduced...
This is when, we got into a disagreement...
He was saying that blunt cuts and clear man made cuts on the tree don't matter as long as they're concealed from the front of the tree.
I was thinking that although the tree should have a front from which it is displayed, it is also important that it should also be presentable from from every angle, and obvious trunk chops should be concealed by carving, if they are atall necessary. These blunt cuts annoy me and I want my trees to look good from any angle. I want to know ways to conceal them!
Anyway, He was saying that this is nonsense and it is not bonsai, when you work on part of the tree to make it look good if it is not the front.
What do you guys think?
Also, what about carving? Is there any controversy about this?
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jacobplopo wrote: Anyway, He was saying that this is nonsense and it is not bonsai, when you work on part of the tree to make it look good if it is not the front.
I have to disagree with your father. Actually, in my opinion, it's the other way around: you're not properly doing bonsai if you only make the front look good.
Surely, a tree will have a front, which is its best side. However, it should be presentable from any side.
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I know the argument your dad made. It is a matter of personal taste. If you want to do bonsai at the highest level, and want to exhibit in good shows, trees with blunt cuts will not be accapted.
If you just want a tree in the garden to show off, sure you can leave them.
For me, I do nt want trees with ugly marks. I want to grow to the highest level open to me, which means, working on trunks without cuts, or closing the cuts through prooper trimming & sealing. Oaks WILL close large cuts over time, especially if you use cut paste, and let thecanopy grow wild for a few years (Trimming back big branches before they result in large cuts).
Maybs you can post an image so we know what you consider large cuts?
If you just want a tree in the garden to show off, sure you can leave them.
For me, I do nt want trees with ugly marks. I want to grow to the highest level open to me, which means, working on trunks without cuts, or closing the cuts through prooper trimming & sealing. Oaks WILL close large cuts over time, especially if you use cut paste, and let thecanopy grow wild for a few years (Trimming back big branches before they result in large cuts).
Maybs you can post an image so we know what you consider large cuts?
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Thank you Auk, and thank you leatherback.
Please find attached a pic of the tree. I think it's really nice, but then again I'm only a begginner with next to no wood.
I was thinking of cutting the top greener bit of the trunk which is newer growth, don't know if you can tell from that pic.
So what about cuts which have been disguised as deadwood such as shari or uro? Will they be accepted in shows?
Thank you for your answers
Please find attached a pic of the tree. I think it's really nice, but then again I'm only a begginner with next to no wood.
I was thinking of cutting the top greener bit of the trunk which is newer growth, don't know if you can tell from that pic.
So what about cuts which have been disguised as deadwood such as shari or uro? Will they be accepted in shows?
Thank you for your answers
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leatherback wrote: I know the argument your dad made. It is a matter of personal taste
I think hiding a blunt cut is not really the issue, but this statement:
"it is not bonsai, when you work on part of the tree to make it look good if it is not the front"
I really cannot agree with.
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As a horticulture pro, blunt cuts annoy me anywhere I see them. on my prebonsai they annoy me to no end and I need to carve them to make it looks like a natural break
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