Moving chinese elm outside
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I've had this chinese elm indoor for 6 months so far and i bought it as" indoor" bonsai, it didn't go dormant during winter. And i read it's really not good in the long run for the tree. So i decided i would rather have this bonsai for many years instead of watching it gradually die for few years.
Now i want to move it outdoors, i've read that you have to do it gradually. Like a week in full shade, then week in partial shade, then full sun - is this correct?
I live in the USDA zone 7b (-15C to -12.2C). I will wait few weeks becouse i just repotted it a week ago (although i already noticed 2 new buds growing) and it seemed weak (chlorosis mayby?) before repot so i want to wait for it to regain some strength.
Also I'm a bit worried becouse i read that squirrels like to dig up the trees, and i have 2 squirrells almost living in my backyard. Is there any way i can repel them with out creating physical barrier around the tree? Or they won't be bothering chinese elm?
Another question i have, considering my climate zone should I bring the tree in a "shed"during winter or leave it outside?
Here is my backyard in the pictures Im not sure where i would put the tree
Now i want to move it outdoors, i've read that you have to do it gradually. Like a week in full shade, then week in partial shade, then full sun - is this correct?
I live in the USDA zone 7b (-15C to -12.2C). I will wait few weeks becouse i just repotted it a week ago (although i already noticed 2 new buds growing) and it seemed weak (chlorosis mayby?) before repot so i want to wait for it to regain some strength.
Also I'm a bit worried becouse i read that squirrels like to dig up the trees, and i have 2 squirrells almost living in my backyard. Is there any way i can repel them with out creating physical barrier around the tree? Or they won't be bothering chinese elm?
Another question i have, considering my climate zone should I bring the tree in a "shed"during winter or leave it outside?
Here is my backyard in the pictures Im not sure where i would put the tree
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Wait until late spring frosts pass and then move it outside, full sun.
Then leave it there till first frost in autumn for trees to get dormant and then put in the shed for winter, but make sure that the temperatures don?t go lower than -10°C. And make sure to check regularly if the substrate is wet if it is not frozen.
Then leave it there till first frost in autumn for trees to get dormant and then put in the shed for winter, but make sure that the temperatures don?t go lower than -10°C. And make sure to check regularly if the substrate is wet if it is not frozen.
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Trees that have been indoors tend to get sunburn when mobed ouyside. So letting it spend a few weeks in a somewhat sheltered area is a good idea.
The only reason for squirrelsnto dig in your pot might be for fertilizer. I se no reason why else they would dig in pots. Mayne try giving liquid fertilizer instead?
The only reason for squirrelsnto dig in your pot might be for fertilizer. I se no reason why else they would dig in pots. Mayne try giving liquid fertilizer instead?
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Kristof is right.. as soon as there are no more frosts you can put it outside... gradually getting it used to sun is correct. outside is far brighter than inside, so too much sun too soon can burn the leaves. I would wait a couple of weeks if you had just repotted, to make sure that more new buds appear. but then slowly put it outside.
I'm not sure about squirrels and their effect on bonsai, they may not dig out the tree.. if you had some kind of small table that makes it difficult for them to climb, but stable enough for the tree that might be all you need, but I don't have any problems with squirrels, as I live in the 4th floor.
I had a chinese elm that was kept as an indoor plant, and then I put it outside last year. It did not go into full dormancy, but is pushing off the older leaves with the new shoots that are virtually exploding everywhere. I kept it in a makeshift greenhouse with bubble wrap during the winter that kept the pot from freezing, just to be sure that it stayed alive.
I'm not sure about squirrels and their effect on bonsai, they may not dig out the tree.. if you had some kind of small table that makes it difficult for them to climb, but stable enough for the tree that might be all you need, but I don't have any problems with squirrels, as I live in the 4th floor.
I had a chinese elm that was kept as an indoor plant, and then I put it outside last year. It did not go into full dormancy, but is pushing off the older leaves with the new shoots that are virtually exploding everywhere. I kept it in a makeshift greenhouse with bubble wrap during the winter that kept the pot from freezing, just to be sure that it stayed alive.
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I wouldn?t worry about chinese elms get sunburned from my experience.
I moved few of them outside like that after winter inside after purchase.
But to be cautious isn?t a bad idea and if something goes wrong, at least you won?t be blaming me :evil:
I moved few of them outside like that after winter inside after purchase.
But to be cautious isn?t a bad idea and if something goes wrong, at least you won?t be blaming me :evil:
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I have a root cutting I took last summer. This stayed outdoors at -12 this winter without any protection. It is perfectly fine.
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Ok thanks alot guys:)
So you think if during winter it won't go below -5C can i keep it outside or whats the lowest temperature it can survive ?
I might put it in shed just in case though
So you think if during winter it won't go below -5C can i keep it outside or whats the lowest temperature it can survive ?
I might put it in shed just in case though
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I left this last surviving little elm from this landscape outside for winter in the corner most of the time covered with snow to see if it can make it - temperatures went as low as -20°C for a few days. Unfortunatelly it didn?t make it
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Oh I see thats unfortunate:(.
Thats a nice setup btw :ohmy:
Thats a nice setup btw :ohmy:
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Ups, It did make it actually, tiny buds are swelling :woohoo:
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