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Posted 7 years 10 months ago #30318
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Yesterday I got a couple of beautiful trees in a poorish state... one is a juniper, the other one I am still trying to identify
Bit a sad story: apparently they belonged to an older gentleman and he was taken into a care home and the family was just going to throw them into a pit. they called the owner of my usual bonshai shop who picked them up in extremis, but since they need quite a lot of TLC he gave them to me for next to nothing

Any ideas as to how to recover them? I really like them. would hate to see them go.

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Posted 7 years 10 months ago #30319
Poor old man had some good stuff , glad to see that someone taking care of it :)
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Posted 7 years 10 months ago #30320
I think the other tree is a cryptomeria. Not sure, I'm not familiar with them. Guidelines are here:


Seems it will bud back, so it should be possible to recover the tree. This will take long (years).

For the juniper however, this will not be possible (assuming you mean bringing it back to its old state). The dead parts will not recover and junipers don't easily bud back. You will need to re-style it.

You may need to repot, you will need to fertilize, prune, wire. I suggest to study the guidelines for both trees to learn when to do what.
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Posted 7 years 10 months ago #30323
thanks Auk

By recovering I really just meant ensuring it didn't die!

For the juniper - do you recommend simply getting rid of all dead (brown) leaves or leaving them in?

Species guide call for repotting in April/May so I will wait. Should I report into earth to give it a breather or will it survive if kept in a bonsai pot?



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Posted 7 years 10 months ago #30326

Sergio.dr wrote: For the juniper - do you recommend simply getting rid of all dead (brown) leaves or leaving them in?


I would remove it. This will give the remaining foliage more space, light and air.

Species guide call for repotting in April/May so I will wait. Should I report into earth to give it a breather or will it survive if kept in a bonsai pot?


I would repot it in proper, free draining soil suitable for Junipers. You may need to trim the roots - but study how/what/how much to prune.
This would be long roots that circle around the pot - which you would need to find by combing out the root ball. Be careful.

The tree should survive in the pot.
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Posted 7 years 10 months ago #30329
As the juniper is in a sorry state, i would repot in a slightly larger pot. Withoutbreally working the roots, get rid of as much of the old substrate possible, and pot up in your favorite substrate for bonsai. Then take care of it as normal, be patient do not worl the tree ffor at least a year afterwards. I would leave the dying foliage on. It is too easy to rmoe something living. In summer once you see new growth clean it up
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Posted 7 years 9 months ago #30520
Seems like there's some growth in the juniper....

I checked the roots as requested, and they don't seem very packed to me... see picture below

However, while cleaning some of the leaves, I saw some spiders, and quite a lot of spider webs. I also saw a small insect which quickly hid Inside the bark but which looking at the Tomlinson seems like blackfly...

Advice? just spray with insecticide or do I need something more radical?

Do you guys agree that the roots seem ok - hence no repotting, or do you still think I should repot?
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Posted 7 years 9 months ago #30521
Those roots look pretty compacted to me... I am not as expienced as auk and leatherback... but that looks pretty rootbound. If you haven't had a look at them... the courses on here on repotting and other techniques are very good.. and the vidoes can be more helpful than what you see in a book. There are some repotting videos on youtube as well.
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