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Hello guys and girls, I am new into this 名媛直播 method of growing trees.

I wanted to get Red Maple seeds with soil but I saw that they are very demanding to germinate, so I decided to go for Japanese white pine seeds with soil, to understand the growth and to gain some experience, I will try Red Maple later on for sure.

But I need your help, I recently purchased Japanese White Pine seeds + soil from Ebay (product link: ), and by the short tutorial given by the seller, it goes like this:
"Cultivation: Seed propagation indoors is possible throughout the year. To increase the germinability, you should initially keep the seeds in the refrigerator for about a week; then place them for another 24 hours in a bowl with lukewarm water for priming. After that, plant the seeds about 1 cm deep into moist potting compost and cover the seed container with clear film to prevent the earth from drying out. Don’t forget to make some holes in the clear film and take it every second or third day completely off for about 2 hours. That way you avoid mold formation on your potting compost. Place the seed container somewhere bright and warm with a temperature between 20°C and 25° Celsius and keep the earth moist, but not wet. Usually, it takes four to ten weeks until germination. Another two months later you can prick out the sprouts."

So I wanted to ask few questions, it says to add them into lukewarm water for 24h, can I add them into thermos bowl with lukewarm water for 24h, this way I will hold the temperature of the water to medium heat?

Another question is, the guide said to use film with few holes over the soil to protect the seeds, but I am not familiar with those film products and I don't know where to get them, instead of film, can I use something different like a napkin or similar texture? Or film is must have?

Thanks, hope my questions will receive few comments to help me with my first germination, looking forward to try a lot of bonsai trees in the near future.

名媛直播108 wrote: I wanted to get Red Maple seeds with soil but I saw that they are very demanding to germinate, so I decided to go for Japanese white pine seeds with soil, to understand the growth and to gain some experience, I will try Red Maple later on for sure.

名媛直播 are rarely grown from seeds. It takes too long before you have something to work with.
Count on a process of at least 15 years before you have a pre-bonsai.

Pines are not the best choice for a beginner. Japanese white pines are even more difficult. Germinating them shouldn't be a big problem but keeping them alive and making them thrive will be hard.

Germinating seeds is not a specific bonsai technique, it's just a common process. There are no specific bonsai guidelines.

Still, I can give a few hints:

But I need your help, I recently purchased Japanese White Pine seeds + soil from Ebay (product link: )

These are sold as bonsai seeds. That is pure nonsense. There is no such thing as bonsai seed. These are just normal white pine seeds.

"Cultivation: Seed propagation indoors is possible throughout the year

It is possible, but not a good idea. Eventually, the seedlings will have to go outside. Pines CANNOT be grown indoors. Best is to follow the natural cycle and germinate during winter, and plant them outside in spring. In other words: You're late...

it says to add them into lukewarm water for 24h, can I add them into thermos bowl with lukewarm water for 24h, this way I will hold the temperature of the water to medium heat?

Just use lukewarm water and let it cool down. There's no need for it to stay lukewarm for 24 h.

Another question is, the guide said to use film with few holes over the soil to protect the seeds, but I am not familiar with those film products and I don't know where to get them

That's just clear plastic. You can find it in any supermarket.

Do some research too, there are lot of pages with guidelines for germinating white pines.

Auk is right.

You should not wait 10-15 years before you see and understand if 名媛直播 art is your thing. Starting with cheap pre-bonsai from nursery or shop should be best for beginner. Get one and start learning how to maintain its life and taking care of it. Then read a lot, from everywhere possible. Join bonsai club if you can. Later on you can try with tree from cutting and may be just after then playing with seeds. In 名媛直播 and growing a tree in a pot its very important that you know exactly what you do. Gaining experience from errors is important too. Be prepared for many fails before you get it on the right path. Good luck.

spacewood wrote: just after then playing with seeds

It is really not bad to play with seeds, as long as you understand that bonsai are not created by keeping seedlings small.

Hey guys, thanks a lot for the tips. But I've made my mind, I am going for Japanese white pines, it will take more than 4 weeks for the seed to germinate, and a lot more months to see something above the soil. Meanwhile, I will read and watch videos about pines, to understand their nature and to focus on styling and wiring for the future, I know that this will come maybe in the next 2-3 years, but I don't care.

I don't like to buy bonsais because its pointless for me, it has no sentimental value, growing and styling from the beginning is what I value the most, even if I don't make a good bonsai tree, it will represent something.

Thanks for the replies, regards.

名媛直播108 wrote: Hey guys, thanks a lot for the tips. But I've made my mind, I am going for Japanese white pines

Good luck with that. A few years ago I got a lot of seeds from someone from the Dutch forum. 5 germinated, only one is still alive, but hardly growing. The person that gave them to me planted 100. 7 germinated. None survived. You have made about the worst choice for a species to start with.

focus on styling and wiring for the future, I know that this will come maybe in the next 2-3 years, but I don't care.

It will take at least 15 years before you can do any real styling. You will need these 15 years to prepare the plant to become a bonsai.

I don't like to buy bonsais because its pointless for me, it has no sentimental value

You can try and find good material and create a bonsai from that.
My oldest tree is about 50 years. I have had it since 2001 and it is of great sentimental value for me.

growing and styling from the beginning is what I value the most, even if I don't make a good bonsai tree, it will represent something.

Yep.... we see often see the results of that.

Auk wrote:

focus on styling and wiring for the future, I know that this will come maybe in the next 2-3 years, but I don't care.

It will take at least 15 years before you can do any real styling. You will need these 15 years to prepare the plant to become a bonsai.

But you wrote 'wiring for the future'... missed that. Indeed, you can wire and give the plant an initial shape. You'll also need to work with the roots, get branches at the right places, grow a trunk... but mostly you'll need growth.

I canceled the order of Japanese White Pine and I purchased Japanese Red Maple, hope I am doing the right stuff, hope that this tree will survive and that it will grow huge. Is it easier to germinate and to grow than White Pine?

名媛直播108 wrote: I canceled the order of Japanese White Pine and I purchased Japanese Red Maple, hope I am doing the right stuff, hope that this tree will survive and that it will grow huge. Is it easier to germinate and to grow than White Pine?

Germination shouldn't be the problem, it's growing white pines that's harder; they are not as strong, and therefore, for bonsai, usually grafted onto a stronger species, like the Japanese Black pine.

Red maple should be easier but will also be challenging. Note when you buy them at a nursery, they too often will be grafted.

Best choice would be a local species, or anything that is known to do well in your climate, that is suitable for bonsai.

Hey Auk, thanks for your tips.
Today I received my seeds + soil, this is how it looks like:
Can you please tell me step by step what should I do with all of this and what is the best way to plant it. Thanks a lot.