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- Wisebonsai
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Newbie here so please bear with me . I made a recent purchase the other day and wanted to know what this particular species is. Also, what sort of care should I be applying to this particular style, since it's a deadwood/driftwood (?) I'm a little worried about rotting, fungi, etc. Should I avoid watering/damping the tree itself since it's basically all exposed? Bottom-watering might be a better alternative? What about misting, would that be alright or will that be encouraging rotting the tree? Please fill me in how how to best care for this particular tree.
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It resembles a money tree but I'm really not sure about the species. I suggest checking the leaf/tree guide for your area if you think it is indigenous.
Here's a good place to start if you're the Americas. discoverlife[dot}org
As a rule, I never wet the trunk or branches unless I am treating for pests.
Damp bark can lead to a fungi, rot and insect infestations especially if your tree is indoors and does not get a chance to dry out. Water straight down onto the soil.
Misting the leaves with tap water will leave salts and chemicals on the leaves after the mist evaporates so do that with caution. Rain water is best.
The best advice that I have been given on bonsaiempire.com about new trees is this:
- Do not interfere with the tree.
- Water at random/when slightly dry, until water drips gently from the drainage holes.
- Fertilize on a schedule.
Good luck and I hope this helps.
A.J
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geekfreedom wrote: It resembles a money tree but I'm really not sure about the species. Here's a good place to start if you're the Americas. discoverlife[dot}org
Fyi: you can simply type the URL here, no need to obfuscate it:
BTW: I don't think that's a money tree. Could be a maple (but I just took a quick look, not sure, may try again later)
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I hope you are keeping well.
I didn't know the rules about pasting links so I just played it safe.
Cheers!
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I would treat the deadwood with wood hardener.
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Auk wrote: I wonder if it's an Acer Negundo. Still not sure. Could we get a better close up of the leaves?
I'm looking at the web page here on the forum, and notice that the tree that's on the header of the page, seems to be the same species as what this person is asking about.
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- Wisebonsai
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In response to Auk, yes I believe it's a variety of Negundo. It was told to me in Chinese so I was unsure of its actual name and it is indigenous to where I'm located.
Yes, I try not to water the wooded parts, but I guess moisture still builds up from the rain here and the underside of the tree is pretty much damp constantly, a little soggy as well. I don't know how that will affect the tree, but aren't deadwood-styled trees suppose to "decay" naturally anyway to give that natural, aged look?
Can I use a regular toothbrush to clean some of the wood that's discolored? I actually like the natural look of it but perhaps it's best to clean it? Anyway, I have attached a close-up look of the leaves as requested.
Appreciate all your help : )
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Not sure what you mean with the deadwood, can't really see it. My trees are outside, in the rain, and when I water, I water it from above, so everything gets wet, including leaves and trunk.
However, copy/pasted this from this very website:
"This technique is almost exclusively used on evergreen trees, as creating Jin or Shari on deciduous trees often looks unrealistic (deadwood on a deciduous tree often rots away over time)."
So it may be a bit of a problem to keep the tree healthy and keep the deadwood looking realistic.
There are techniques to preserve deadwood on deciduous trees. I do have one deciduous tree with a lot of deadwood (an elm) but I've never used such techniques. Occasionally I spray it with diluted jin fluid.
From 名媛直播4me (one of my favorite sites):
"As the wood breaks down, more of the heartwood becomes exposed to moisture and the rotting area spreads. If left unhindered, the rot will continue to spread throughout the heartwood of the tree"
and
"Unwanted rotting areas should be dealt with quickly"
The source, where you can find details about preserving deadwood:
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I do that to with my other trees, I just mist them completely, but with this one I thought I should take more precautions since it's a style that I've never cared for.
I just noticed that the parts where the tree is in contacted with the moss (like in the first picture) are considerably darker and soggy. Is it good for the tree to be in such close contact with the moss for that long that those areas are never dry, or should I immediately move the moss pieces further away from the tree?
Also, please share some tips on how to "clean" the tree. It's stripped of its bark, so a regular tooth brush and water will do the job by gentle scrubbing the surfaces? Or do I need some special brush tool and liquid?
Finally, there's no way to tell a tree's age by looking at the pictures correct? How old would you roughly say it is?
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