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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25316

Winter wrote: The pot is definitely too small now. Id say 30x30x30 cm is the smallest id use. Also place a rock under the roots to make the trunk grow larger at the base.


Should I rinse the roots with water and mayby prune some?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25317

Biafra wrote:

Winter wrote: The pot is definitely too small now. Id say 30x30x30 cm is the smallest id use. Also place a rock under the roots to make the trunk grow larger at the base.


Should I rinse the roots with water and mayby prune some?


Why can't people resist the urge to put their scissors in a tree?

Why do you think you need to prune the roots?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25318
Biafra,
You would obviously like to work on this tree, but in bonsai you need to let the tree work by himself. For now no pruning, no wiring - stay away of drugs and scissors!
You need to have the patience to let it grow freely for at least 2 years and get some strength and vigour.
By then you will study about bonsai and will know what to do next. If you cant wait you need more trees so there will be alway something to do.
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25490
. I can certainly wait 2 years i dont feel the urge to cut the tree. I just read somewhere that You should cut some roots when repotting, but obviously i will listen to You guys. Thanks Winter for being so helpful :)
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25491

Biafra wrote: I just read somewhere that You should cut some roots when repotting


That is not incorrect, but you should read a bit more about why to prune roots.
First you should understand when and why to repot.
It could be a tree in training, that's going into its first bonsai pot. It could be an established tree that has become root bound and needs to be repotted.
In these cases, if the trees are healthy, you'd probably need to prune the roots.

It could just be a tree not doing well that needs repotting. If it goes into a larger pot, pruning may not be necessary and if the tree isn't healthy, you may even not want to do that to not further stress the tree.

So, that's why I asked why you want to prune the roots. Is it necessary? Is the tree healthy enough?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25583

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Biafra wrote: I just read somewhere that You should cut some roots when repotting


That is not incorrect, but you should read a bit more about why to prune roots.
First you should understand when and why to repot.
It could be a tree in training, that's going into its first bonsai pot. It could be an established tree that has become root bound and needs to be repotted.
In these cases, if the trees are healthy, you'd probably need to prune the roots.

It could just be a tree not doing well that needs repotting. If it goes into a larger pot, pruning may not be necessary and if the tree isn't healthy, you may even not want to do that to not further stress the tree.

So, that's why I asked why you want to prune the roots. Is it necessary? Is the tree healthy enough?


Well im not sure if there is an easy way to tell the age of a bonsai, but the seller said it's 5 years old. It has been in my house for few weeks now and its growing some new shoots. So to check if it's healthy I think it is (doesn't drop leaves, grows new shoots) do I have to take it out of the pot and check the roots somehow?

I read this on the site: "Younger Chinese Elms should be repotted every two years, older and large specimens can be repotted in longer intervals. Spring is the best time for repotting. Root pruning should be done with precision and as the Chinese Elm tends to produce crooked and intertwined roots you should work on them very carefully in order to create a regular nebari as good as possible. "

So it seems i should wait for spring, and i think also i have to ask the seller when the tree was repotted last right?
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25587
Re-pot when the tree needs it. Gently lift it out of the pot and see if the roots are starting to swirl around the pot. If they are, re-pot as you stated. If not, leave it alone.
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25588

Biafra wrote: Well im not sure if there is an easy way to tell the age of a bonsai


Irrelevant. You just got this tree, up to y ou to check if the soil is good enough, the plant has enough room and whether it needs to be repotted or not.
Plants do best when you just leave 'm alone. Any action like r epotting, pruning and wiring causes stress. This should only be done with healthy trees - unless when the soil is bad and you need to do an emergency repotting.

, but the seller said it's 5 years old


Seems legit.

It has been in my house for few weeks now and its growing some new shoots. So to check if it's healthy I think it is (doesn't drop leaves, grows new shoots) do I have to take it out of the pot and check the roots somehow?


Why, if you think it is h ealthy? You've only got the plant for a few weeks. Let it get used to your environment.

"Younger Chinese Elms should be repotted every two years, older and large specimens can be repotted in longer intervals.


That are the rules for bonsai. Your first concern is to check the soil, check the health of the plant, and be patient.
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25589

名媛直播Learner wrote: Re-pot when the tree needs it. Gently lift it out of the pot and see if the roots are starting to swirl around the pot. If they are, re-pot as you stated. If not, leave it alone.


Thanks for helping guys :) . I tried lifting it out of the pot , but i can't do it gently, it won't move, i tried pulling it a little harder but i felt like some roots could have started to pluck, so i stopped it. Im to scared to pull it harder :(
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Posted 8 years 4 months ago #25590

Thanks for helping guys :) . I tried lifting it out of the pot , but i can't do it gently, it won't move, i tried pulling it a little harder but i felt like some roots could have started to pluck, so i stopped it. Im to scared to pull it harder :(


Not sure why i can't edit previous post. Anyway i guess i should do something like this first :)
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