ID tree from garden center
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I bought a tree and have both cut and wired it. Only issue is when i google the name given me at the garden center i get little to no info, and certainly nothing about having it as a bonsai. The name i was given is: Abies Balsamea Brilliant and in my native language it also says Korean fir / Koreanpihta, which I think is Abies Koreana. Any tips on properly identifying my tree?
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1. You should have identified it BEFORE pruning, wiring and repotting itMr. Fancy Plants wrote: I bought a tree and have both cut and wired it. Only issue is when i google the name given me at the garden center i get little to no info, and certainly nothing about having it as a bonsai. The name i was given is: Abies Balsamea Brilliant and in my native language it also says Korean fir / Koreanpihta, which I think is Abies Koreana. Any tips on properly identifying my tree?
2. 名媛直播 are not created this way. It takes time and careful planning, when to prune, when to wire and when to repot
3. Unless when you took it inside for a photo only: trees belong outside.
You can confirm it is an Abies Koreana by looking up pictures of Abies Koreana and comparing it. To confirm, you can Google "Abies Balsamea Brilliant", which will give you linkes to sites with more information, including the proper name of the tree.
You do need more practice wiring; what I see looks pretty sloppy and inefficient. Better to practice on branches you can find, rather than buying a tree and killing it.
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Auk wrote: 1. You should have identified it BEFORE pruning, wiring and repotting it
2. 名媛直播 are not created this way. It takes time and careful planning, when to prune, when to wire and when to repot
3. Unless when you took it inside for a photo only: trees belong outside.
You can confirm it is an Abies Koreana by looking up pictures of Abies Koreana and comparing it. To confirm, you can Google "Abies Balsamea Brilliant", which will give you linkes to sites with more information, including the proper name of the tree.
You do need more practice wiring; what I see looks pretty sloppy and inefficient. Better to practice on branches you can find, rather than buying a tree and killing it.
No reason to get your panties in a bunch. If i want to throw away money practicing on a tree I have bought is that not my perogative? Althoug I do see your point regarding practicing on branches.
The tree does live outside, but since it was raining when I "murdered" the tree I did the slaughtering inside, hence the photo from indoors
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Auk wrote: Better to practice on branches you can find, rather than buying a tree and killing it.
So obvious, yet never thought about that...
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Sorry man, my native language is not English and I don't know the expression.Mr. Fancy Plants wrote: No reason to get your panties in a bunch
We get these same questions so often, that answers can be a bit too short and to the point, not really meaning to be harsh. And I'm Dutch, which doesn't seem to help.
Of course you decide what you spend your money on, obviously that is none of my concern. However, if you don't care about trees, and don't mind 'slaughtering' them, you should reconsider if bonsai, a hobby that requires lots of time, patience, study, and careful planning, really is the right hobby for you.
Practicing on a branch was just a good tip. It is being recommended by bonsai trainers. This way you can learn to wire, without damaging a live tree.
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Mr. Fancy Plants wrote: No reason to get your panties in a bunch. If i want to throw away money practicing on a tree I have bought is that not my perogative? Althoug I do see your point regarding practicing on branches.
The tree does live outside, but since it was raining when I "murdered" the tree I did the slaughtering inside, hence the photo from indoors
Auk is just giving you a tip, you don't have to do it if you don't want. And it is a true fact, it is better to practice on a branch rather than killing a tree. This is the first time you wire, and wiring takes some practice to learn, so it is expected that you will fail the first couple of times. It isn't just about money or killing the tree either, but also about your time. After you've killed a few trees after all that thinning work and stuff, you'll be really annoyed at the fact that your untrained wiring is destroying your work. All the mistakes you made on this tree I made myself, and probably 95% of people on this forum. Don't give up, read more, practice more.
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Auk wrote:
Sorry man, my native language is not English and I don't know the expression.Mr. Fancy Plants wrote: No reason to get your panties in a bunch
We get these same questions so often, that answers can be a bit too short and to the point, not really meaning to be harsh. And I'm Dutch, which doesn't seem to help.
Of course you decide what you spend your money on, obviously that is none of my concern. However, if you don't care about trees, and don't mind 'slaughtering' them, you should reconsider if bonsai, a hobby that requires lots of time, patience, study, and careful planning, really is the right hobby for you.
Practicing on a branch was just a good tip. It is being recommended by bonsai trainers. This way you can learn to wire, without damaging a live tree.
I?ll take any tips, don?t get me wrong. I will do some practicing on branches. As mentioned before, I bought a cheap treer to practice on and to get the feel of what it feels like to "bonsai it up"
I?ll go get some branches and start the practicing asap, and I?ll read some more.
Oh, and the expression basically means: Calm down, no need to get upset.
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