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Foliage is wine red now and I was told it will turn green as seasons change. 7 pointed lobes. Anyone know the variation is called? Acer palmatum _____?
Some styling/pruning/wiring suggestions are also needed. Thanks!

Wisebonsai wrote: Foliage is wine red now and I was told it will turn green as seasons change. 7 pointed lobes. Anyone know the variation is called? Acer palmatum _____?

What did the tag that was with it say?

I don't know any that have this color and turn green later (if it doesn't turn green, I'd say it is some sort of an Atropurpureum), but does it matter? If it does: here's 27 pages of Acer Palmatums. Have fun....



I hope you brought it indoors for the photo only?

The tag was in Mandarin, "Red orangutan" in translation. Yes, I only brought it in for the photo as it is night time. Any styling suggestions? Pruning, wiring, etc.

Wisebonsai wrote: The tag was in Mandarin, "Red orangutan" in translation.

You can Google that, which I now did for you.



So, my guess would be it's Deshojo, Shin-Deshojo or something like that. However, that's just a guess. I realy do not want to pretend to know all the many varieties.

Any styling suggestions? Pruning, wiring, etc.

I think you need a fatter trunk first. I'd let it grow.

Great, it does indeed look like the name you found and their characteristics seem to fit with what was told to me. Thanks for your help.

thinks it's not a deshojo.. deshojo has a much more red-fuchsia type of spring leaf.. while yours has a hint of orange and green in them..

Dominion wrote: thinks it's not a deshojo.. deshojo has a much more red-fuchsia type of spring leaf.. while yours has a hint of orange and green in them..

Also, Deshojo's stay red, as far as I know. As said, there are numerous varieties and it is pretty hard figuring out which one exactly it is. Still, I do not think it is important. The care guidelines are the same.

Deshojo has been reproduced from seed by many people, resulting ni a weakening of the original colors. So although it may be labelled as such, and the seller may believe it is deshojo, considering the color it probably is one from a seed-stock, rather cutting decendent. Or the picture does not do value to the colors

Appreciate all your input. I'm asking because it was told to me in Chinese and not its actual botanical name. Judging by the stubs along the main trunk I'm guessing it's an air layer. Anyway, I'm curious about how you guys would approach a material like this. Should I just let it grow wild this year and disregard branch structuring? Or do I cut back hard now on some of the thicker branches to promote new growth in the lower sections? I read about cutting back on long internodes of new growth for ramification, then I also read about letting a material grow for thickening the trunk and establishing a good root base. Let me know what you guys suggest and the reasoning behind it. Thanks.

Decide the size of the tree you are after. That will .

If the trunk is thick enough, cut back to 2/3 of the height you want, and build the crown, using know techniques such as cutting coarse growth, early sring pinching etc.

If not.. I would use the tow lowest branches to create girth. Let them grow. Meanwile, trim the rest of the branches a few times each year to stay the height they heve now. Do allow them to grow out between trimmings, or they will die! Do not trim after early august, to ensure survival of the now much weaker branch in winter. That would be my strategy