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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20079
Hi everyone, I am brand new to this forum and need help. I got a small Japanese juniper tree at a local greenhouse around 4 months ago. The tree seemed to be in good health (healthy green, had new shoots growing and such). I initially watered the tree around twice a week, but eventually began watering less often, partially in fear of overwatering. I recently noticed that the foliage was looking kind of dry and brittle. It is still mostly green, but looks more pale and less fresh (and I don't see any signs of new growth). The leaves break off very easily, as if its completely dry. I'm quite sure that the soil dried out completely, so I tried the immersion technique found in a book I have about bonsai care (immerse the pot in a tub of water until bubbles stop rising to the top). I don't think that it is an issue related to light - the tree is on the desk of my room where it receives some sunlight through the window in the morning, then indirect sunlight for the rest of the day. I know that the tree is not all dead yet, as when I tried scratching the trunk there was still green underneath. I am however worried the foliage may be done for.

I am now aware that junipers are not meant to be indoor plants and generally don't last long as so (though I was not when I first purchased the tree). I have thought to put the tree outside but I'm worried that it could not handle the harsh winters and very hot summer conditions we have here (I live in Alberta, Canada). I also thought it might be risky to suddenly transfer it outside, as it has spent nearly all it's life indoors and may have trouble adapting to such a rapid change. The weather recently has been more mild (around 5-18°C) besides an occasional snow so it might be a good time for the transition if I choose to do so.

As for potting, I haven't changed the pot that it came in yet, but I was intending to repot this spring. Do you think repotting might benefit the tree or would it cause more unnecessary stress?

I have attached photos of the tree (it may look wet because I just misted it), so please let me know if you think that there is still hope for my bonsai or if there are any immediate measures I should take in order to save it. Thank you! :)
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20080
Sorry. It is dead. Toss it. Buy another, and keep it utside.
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20081

I tried the immersion technique found in a book I have about bonsai care


Also get another book, don't buy from the same nursery, and if you want to get into bonsai, don't buy a similar plant, but a real bonsai or bonsai starter material (after you've learned how to take care of it)
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20082
you learned your first lesson by killing a tree.. trees are to be kept outside!
if you want something to put on your desk, buy a picture frame or an orchid..
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20090

Cronic wrote: you learned your first lesson by killing a tree.. trees are to be kept outside!
if you want something to put on your desk, buy a picture frame or an orchid..


Orchids won't grow on a desk very long, if you you want a beautiful orchid, you sort of need a "tropical green house".
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20093

Samantha wrote: Orchids won't grow on a desk very long, if you you want a beautiful orchid, you sort of need a "tropical green house".


Doesn't matter. Fran won't be reading this. She already got the same answer (the plant is dead) on another forum, where she did bother to thank the person who took the time to reply.
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20103
I can say this... the juniper that my wife purchased for me under the guise of it being a 名媛直播, is dead. The soil it came in was like packed mud. I did not re pot it and it basically suffocated. Both the 8 yr old juniper, and the 5 yr old juniper, I got from my class are thriving and growing in the substrate that was suggested by the teacher. I'm actually proud that I learned a lesson.
I will let it grown to obtain the trunk size and general shape I want out this tree, then re pot and train all over again. One step at a time.
They are both many years away from earning the name 名媛直播.
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20160
Thank you all very much for your answers. This is very unfortunate and I will be sure to do more research before going to buy any other tree.
On a side note, I have heard that ficus are better suited as indoor plants - is this true?
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20161

fran_02 wrote: On a side note, I have heard that ficus are better suited as indoor plants - is this true?


That is true, but if you're into bonsai, do not buy the pot belly type ficus, but try and find real bonsai material.
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #20162
I see - I'll look into it. Thanks again.
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