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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #19926
Hi guys,

So this is pretty exciting. I've always wanted a bonsai since I was a kid, but I didn't want to buy a trained old, bonsai for hundreds or even thousands of dollars. I wanted to do it myself!. So I spent months researching, and reading about 名媛直播 art this past winter. I learned many things, such as care, and how to choose a good beginners plant.

It is spring! so I went to my local nursery shop where they have beautiful 名媛直播s, trained by 名媛直播 artists, so they take good care of their plants and know what they are doing. I bought myself a Juniper with a nice trunk because I am not interested in growing a seedling for 5 years... Of course this Juniper was not potted in a 名媛直播 pot, but it was a rather ugly cheap looking plant. Underneath all the foliage, a nice thick Trunk, with a shape that resembled pretty much what I want to achieve (which takes off some of the heavy wiring work for a beginner like me!).

I spent hours on Sunday, taking off branches I didn't want, and pruning it to make it look like a tree. Lot's of fun!!!. I put some wire on it, but I am not stressing it too much cause I am an absolute beginner on this. I re-potted it into a real bonsai pot, with good bonsai soil. It looks pretty nice for a beginner! I think :side: (I will post pictures).

I hope I do a good job this growing season! but I am quite worried about winter. I would feel quite guilty if I kill the tree. I live in Vermont, USA. Here, winter starts early, and it ends late, constant freezing temperatures are quite common for 4-6 months. sub zero Farenheit temperatures are the norm for January, February, and sometimes March. Sometimes we even get arctic fronts, with temperatures dropping below 20 Farenheit for days, or even weeks.

I know that basically, to go through winter, I have to keep the roots from freezing. But I am unsure what my best options are, with such harsh winters. Junipers do survive here, when planted on the ground of course...

I don't have a shed, or garage that would truly protect the tree from very low temperatures. So I thought my options were:

1) Build a shelter for my tree, with good insulation.
2) Bury the tree underground.

I am leaning towards option 2, unless you can enlighten me with your knowledge and offer me a better option. However, I need some advise on how to properly do number 2. I know it is early, but I want to be prepared before the winter fight begins! (if my tree survives my noob skills this growing season of course... :silly: )

Thanks!!!
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #19927

entropy4money wrote:
I went to my local nursery shop where they have beautiful 名媛直播s, trained by 名媛直播 artists
I bought myself a Juniper [...] but it was a rather ugly cheap looking plant.


Somehow that sounds contradicting.

Underneath all the foliage, a nice thick Trunk, with a shape that resembled pretty much what I want to achieve


A beautiful, symmetrical S-shape?

I spent hours on Sunday, taking off branches
pruning it
I put some wire on it
I re-potted it into a real bonsai pot, with good bonsai soil


Pruned it, removed branches, wired it, repotted it, used the wrong substrate, and all of that at the wrong moment...

I am quite worried about winter


Considering the above, I think you should be worried more if it will even make winter.
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #19928

Auk wrote:

entropy4money wrote:
I went to my local nursery shop where they have beautiful 名媛直播s, trained by 名媛直播 artists
I bought myself a Juniper [...] but it was a rather ugly cheap looking plant.


Somehow that sounds contradicting.

Underneath all the foliage, a nice thick Trunk, with a shape that resembled pretty much what I want to achieve


A beautiful, symmetrical S-shape?

I spent hours on Sunday, taking off branches
pruning it
I put some wire on it
I re-potted it into a real bonsai pot, with good bonsai soil


Pruned it, removed branches, wired it, repotted it, used the wrong substrate, and all of that at the wrong moment...

I am quite worried about winter


Considering the above, I think you should be worried more if it will even make winter.


I got something that looked like this:



They have already trained, potted bonsais. But I am not interested in that.

shaped it into something that looked like this:



I don't have access to it, but it looks similar to that.

I removed branches I didn't want, really only 2 small ones, then I re-potted on a rather big bonsai pot, then I added wires to start shaping it a little bit. Why is it the wrong moment? it is very early spring. I also used the same organic mix they used at the store for their Junipers. So if their trees grow for years, how is it the wrong substrate?
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entropy4money wrote: I got something that looked like this:


Nice juniper, but looks too young to me. I can't see the trunk, but I expect it would have needed a couple of years in the ground to develop a usable trunk.

I removed branches I didn't want, really only 2 small ones, then I re-potted on a rather big bonsai pot, then I added
wires to start shaping it a little bit. Why is it the wrong moment? it is very early spring.


Oh, OK, that doesn't sound too bad.
Junipers should be repotted later, just before bud break. I guess you could have waited, but I guess you're fine as you haven't done too much.

Junipers are hardy, mine are outside always without protection from cold.
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entropy4money wrote: I got something that looked like this:


Nice juniper, but looks too young to me. I can't see the trunk, but I expect it would have needed a couple of years in the ground to develop a usable trunk.

I removed branches I didn't want, really only 2 small ones, then I re-potted on a rather big bonsai pot, then I added
wires to start shaping it a little bit. Why is it the wrong moment? it is very early spring.


Oh, OK, that doesn't sound too bad.
Junipers should be repotted later, just before bud break. I guess you could have waited, but I guess you're fine as you haven't done too much.


That's a picture I found on google, not the actual one. I didn't take any pre and post work picture (noob mistake). But I just want to illustrate my point. Thanks for the honest critique. This winter was incredibly warm and strange here in the US north-east, and spring will come a bit earlier, so hopefully that would outweigh my mistake.

I'll take a picture of the tree as soon as I get home and post it here. This is my first bonsai so I don't have high expectations of course, I might do a second one next week or so in case this one doesn't survive.
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Posted 8 years 9 months ago #19934

entropy4money wrote:

Auk wrote:

entropy4money wrote:

They have already trained, potted bonsais. But I am not interested in that.

shaped it into something that looked like this:



I don't have access to it, but it looks similar to that.

I removed branches I didn't want, really only 2 small ones, ...


That really is something else, from that little shrub...

You need to do more like that
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