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leatherback wrote:

Auk wrote:

brkirkland22 wrote:

Auk wrote: If I look at full grown leafs on one of my chestnuts, and reduced ones on another one, I'd say that reduction to 1/4th certainly is possible, probably more.

You are talking about a different plant family altogether I think. The chstnut discussed is an edible nut, Castanea sativa, not the "horse chestnut", Aesculus spp.

The leaves on Auk's plant look just like the ones in our park. The nuts are edible, some people call them Buckeyes, especially those guys in Ohio. They have this leaf on their football helmets. We always called them chestnuts. I have one next to the compost pile (came up by it's self), and one in a pot.

In August when it's hot and dry, all the leaves curl up and turn brown, almost every year. The squirrels get most of them, we hardly ever get one. Once, we watched a movie about Thomas Moore, when he was executed, those plants were in the background.

just tossed that in there.

I've a mix here in the mountains of southwest Virginia (USA). They're closely related, but some differences between chestnut and buckeye groups.

Buckeye: aesculus spp. are poisonous, but a myth here says to keep in your pocket for verility. I've got Yellow Buckeyes on my property (aesculus flava). Aaaaaand I've put them in my pocket on occasion. :whistle:

The horse chestnut Auk spoke of is also from the same genus: Aesculus
Auk, have you a species on this one? I love our chestnuts (read more below), and something similar might make me smile when I view it.

Chestnuts: Castanea spp.
Chinese chestnuts: castanea mollissima delicious and common plantings. There are several here that farmers planted after the chestnut blight killed the majority of American chestnut. Blight came from the import of these in early 1900's (they're smallish ~30ft), which made them nice for planting in NYC - oops).

American chestnut: castanea dentata 1 in 4 trees of eastern US was a chestnut. 5 ft diameter and 100 ft tall, the blight destroyed them. We've still got them, but rare to find mature enough to reproduce. Blight still kills them after a few years (roots aren't affected, so they sprout readily). Loads of research, clones, etc. are working to bring them back. I'm excited - I'll plant when they're available.

Allegheny chinkapin: castanea pumila a dwarf chestnut, still tasty, but hard to find. I know a few in select locations, but I leave them alone because of their rarity here. I've seen several on backpacking trips along Appalachia.

Sweet chestnut: Castanea sativa a European chestnut? Don't know much about it, but sounds delicious! A quick view reminds me of the Chinese chestnut mentioned earlier.

I'm in love with our US chestnut history, so sorry for the long explanation.

brkirkland22 wrote: Buckeye: aesculus spp. are poisonous, but a myth here says to keep in your pocket for verility.

Ha... Loved that unorthodox use of chestnut! There is something new I?ve learned today and perhaps I should give it a try sometime :whistle:

brkirkland22 wrote: I'm in love with our US chestnut history, so sorry for the long explanation.

Worry not, no appologies should be given. I really enjoyed reading it.

Alain

The squirrels eat them, and plant them all over the garden. ok, i'll try not to eat any more. Actually they really don't taste very good... Kids use to trade "em for marbles, bubble gum, and all those things, that were good for trade. The only reason we ate them, was because, of Nat King Cole's "Christmas Song" ... Well we thought that's what they were. Good thing, they all got squirreled away. They really are hard to find. I mean they were worth a bunch of marbles, even a few dice.

Do you ever get more growth out of them than the first bunch growth in the spring, after flowering te ones around here, just stop growing...

whats the botanical name for this weed???

brkirkland22 wrote: The horse chestnut Auk spoke of is also from the same genus: Aesculus
Auk, have you a species on this one?

I have three of them - Aesculus Hippocastanum. They have big leafs so you'll need a big trunk. Two of them are therefor in my garden - I'm trying to develop their trunks. One of 'm is in a training pot - not growing much and it will not really develop into something interesting. I use it for a bit of practice.

They're not really great for bonsai - but well... the seeds were for free.