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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17380
Hey guys,
So I got two bonsais about a month ago, and they were doing really well, I repotted them both as the soil that come with it sucked and the pots weren't at all good (plastic, about 7x7x7cm), I placed them in some pots, added a little solid fertiliser to the soil as I mixed it, and put them in new pots. One of them (Trident Maple) was going fine for a long time, until all of a sudden the leaves started turning a very dark green and started to sound and feel crispy and dry. Today I found out my Chinese Elm was doing the same! So unsure (probably stupidly) of what to do, I sprinkled some fertiliser on the top of the soil of both, gave them a big water and left them in the sun (indoors). But just in case what I did was extremely bad, I'm asking you guys for help.
As you can see in the first image, it's pretty bad. And in the second image you can see a leaf in the centre browning, and one at the top too

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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17381
Also, forgot to mention, you might see in the second image that the bark has been horribly scarred and torn, that because I got it after someone had snapped off most of the actual tree, and left a small branch on the side with all the leaves. It was flourishing until recently so I doubt that that mark has anything to do with the problem
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17382

PieisJesus wrote: So I got two bonsais about a month ago

As you can see in the first image, it's pretty bad.


Certainly I'll take a look, but could you please post a photo of the bonsai in question? Seems you posted photos of your seedlings by mistake instead.
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17384
Looks like you have them inside? In that case.. Did you switch the heater on? Plants do not like heaters and the resulting dry air. Better keep plants outside.
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17385
Auk:
Oh sorry, those are the bonsai, they're still seedlings, my mistake.

leatherback:
No, I live in Australia and it's summertime at this point so it might be the weather itself, but I have been leaving it inside, with the windows open near it
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17386

PieisJesus wrote: Auk:
Oh sorry, those are the bonsai, they're still seedlings, my mistake.


They are either bonsai or seedlings, they cannot be both. 名媛直播 is not a tree species, it is a set of techniques to create miniature trees. I assume you mean seedlings of trees that are suitable to become bonsai in the future.

I think you should not have repotted them - especially not in bonsai pots. That's not how it works; you cannot put seedlings in bonsai pots and expect them to grow into bonsai. You need (lots of) growth first.

It seems the fertilizer you used is solid? That probably won't have hurt the trees. I'm going to have to guess but I think repotting them was the cause. Best thing to do now is to continue to give proper care and hope they recover - don't repot again until they do. Try and keep them out of direct sunlight - but make sure they do get enough light.
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17388

Auk wrote:

PieisJesus wrote: So I got two bonsais about a month ago

As you can see in the first image, it's pretty bad.


Certainly I'll take a look, but could you please post a photo of the bonsai in question? Seems you posted photos of your seedlings by mistake instead.


My Lord :P
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17391
Yeah sorry Auk, in that case, at what point should I begin calling it a bonsai?
And yeah I was thinking that, but I wasn't too sure as the maple looked fine for a long time before it started doing whatever it's doing.
But yeah I'll just keep giving it plenty of water and hope for the best.
Thanks!
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17395

PieisJesus wrote: Yeah sorry Auk, in that case, at what point should I begin calling it a bonsai?


When is a mountain a mountain..?
Just look through images of bonsai and/or go to a few shows. It will give you an idea of when you can show it a bonsai. Here a guide to rating bonsai, which will give you some guidence too:
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Posted 9 years 2 months ago #17396
Design & Styling: What bonsai style is presented by the tree.
The owner does not seem to have decided about a style yet, so this is not applicable.

Taper: To what extent is the main trunk nicely tapered.
There is no tapering, but this is a young tree, so this is not applicable.

Nebari: How well developed is the base of the tree.
The nebari are not developed, but this too is not yet applicable as the tree is too young

Branching: Branches should be evenly distributed in the tree. Branches reduce girth with increasing level in the tree. Branches show a nice taper, gradually thinning to the tips of the tree. Mature branches show several levels of ramification.
This is not a mature plant, it has no mature branches. This point therefore too is not applicable.

Pot: Pots should fit the tree shown.
The pot doesn't fit the tree, but this tree should not be in a bonsai pot yet. Not applicable.

Wiring: How has the tree been wired?
Not applicable. This tree is not wired, it's too young for that.

Layout: What is the design philosophy of the tree.
There does not seem to be any design philosophy. Not applicable.

Scale: Do all elements fit the scale of the tree presented. Are leaves properly reduced, branches and roots matching the schale of the trunk & overall size of the tree.
Not applicable, the tree is not ready for leaf reduction and other techniques.

Balance: Is the tree as a whole balanced: Does the size of the crown fit the trunk? Is the tree optically stable, or does it give the impression of a tree on the verge of falling over?
The tree gives the impression that it will not withstand a storm, probably not even strong winds. However, it's a young tree so we should consider this not applicable.

Character: Does the tree portray the image of an old mature tree? How are trunk line, bark, nebari and crown shape used to give the impression of an old tree. As a whole, does the tree in harmony?
Not at all, and not applicable.

Final Grade: Take the average of all scores given. In case one of the points has not been discussed, or is not applicable, leave that point out of the rating.


Total score would be 0. But as there was nothing that was applicable, the total score that could be achieved was 0 as well.
This tells us this is not a necessarily a bad plant, but it doesn't score as a bonsai.
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