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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16038

xref wrote: hope this satisfy your personal issues.

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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16039

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xref wrote: hope this satisfy your personal issues.

uncalled for


its clearly there are personal problem between them, in previous post with 名媛直播-Dubai, I just do not like seeing that issue dragged to my post, the discussion about how to solve the high temp problem, we aren't talking about how experienced/inexperienced whoever I consulted, I respect the way Auk support people in almost every topic, I just do not like seeing him do whatever he is doing now in my topic, simply he is here just to throw stones at the guy.
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16040

xref wrote: Hello

These days the tempereture around 109 - 116 and its matter of time till its reach 125 Fahernheits.
And i received a new juniper from japan thats surely not used or prepared for this weather.

The top part of the soil will be 100% dry within 8 hours during day time.

Few parts very few dried out, dry green needles, didnt even change to yellow.

Currently i did the very forbiden in almost every page on the internet.
Before i leave to work after its recieved 2-3 hours of early morning light i move it inside in a room with good humidity and light, where i have my Aeroponic system, later after work i move it again outside where its get 2.5 hours of day light and leave it there till the morning.

Now been doing this for only the last 2 days, and i recieved the juniper a week ago.

And i really do not want to find out if this is harmful by myself and kill it.

So am seeking your experience in handling this situation.

I live 1 mile away from the sea, high humidity during summer specially august, dust storms can happen several times a year., many factors make me Feel worry,
Most pages talk about protecting junipers from frost, cant find the needed experience on internet or even in my area.

I hope this explination of my environment can help you to think with me on what can be done to save this bonsai from dieing.
As for juniper i know that its in so hot weather will sacrifice parts of it, maybe a whole branch and a portion of its trunk so the rest of it can stay alive, some time its good to let the nature take its course but this will be a very difficult gamble.


Things i done so far

Putting it in a bigger pot, i had to, its pot got broken during shipping

I watered it with 0.5% h2o2 (not h2o) so i increase the oxygen for roots so its take more water.

Gave it white shark powder to add beneficial bacteria and fungies for better function of its root system.
I removed lots of the juvinel since its couse water to evaporate faster from the tree.

I can explain as much as you need as long this will help you to give me your balueable advice.



I there my friend, sorry but I have not read every post in this thread yet.
In my area of Western Australia the temps can be over 40 degrees celcius for extended periods. This is not as hot as your 50 odd degrees however I can definately relate and offer my experience to you.

I water every single tree I own 3 times per day in Summer, in extended hot periods I will also hand water many times more than this.
It is vitally important that your Soil medium is very freedraining and does not hold water for more than half day. Your pot at present fits this description.
Overhead watering of a juniper is imo the best way because a Juniper would (as long as roots are in stable condition)
loves water thru the foliage but not alot at roots. Humidity in the right amount also help Junipr thrive.
As long as the soil medium has the ability to drain well and not hold moisture too long watering this way is totally fine, mnany people in Australia water thier 名媛直播 collections multiple time a day.
I will not advise you to take tree inside at all, that is your choice.

I hope this can help you a little,

I won't respond to any trolling.
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16042
On the discussion about rotating/turning trees.

This is an important part of growing good 名媛直播. By turning /rotating the trre it allows even distribution of growth to All parts of the tree.
If trees are not turned/rotated then they can develop weak/thin growth in areas which don't get required sunlight. A tree may develop a bare spot or the growth could be very slow. Some species are not as fussy but alot are and it can make a huge difference to the tree.

It should be done, I turn/rotate all my trees near on every week.

Have fun.
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16044

xref wrote: its clearly there are personal problem between them, in previous post with 名媛直播-Dubai, I just do not like seeing that issue dragged to my post


My last comment on this. Just wondering whether you are not drawing conclusions that are not there. If I read the comments, I just see that Auk wonders whether 'not moving them about' and 'rotating frequently' do not contradict. I see not a single stab at 名媛直播 Dubai. And untill you just wrote that that is who you are talking to, I had no reason to believe you are talking to the same guy who was on this forum a little while back.

A thought..:
This is an international forum. That means that everyone here has a different level of English, and a culture-dependent way of phrasing certain elements. I feel that sometimes people look too hard for smudges on their shoes so they can decide that someone is stepping on their toes. If we just take comments by their content and not look for deeper meaning, life could be a lot more pleasant.
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16046

xref wrote: whatever make you happy, the guy is so bad, hope this satisfy your personal issues.


Seems you interpreted what I wrote differently from what I intended.
When I wrote:

"I'm sure the guy knows what he's talking about."

I meant:

"I'm sure the guy knows what he's talking about."

Nothing more, nothing less.
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16047

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xref wrote: Hello

These days the tempereture around 109 - 116 and its matter of time till its reach 125 Fahernheits.
And i received a new juniper from japan thats surely not used or prepared for this weather.

The top part of the soil will be 100% dry within 8 hours ring day time.

Few parts very few dried out, dry green needles, didnt even change to yellow.

Currently i did the very forbiden in almost every page on the internet.
Before i leave to work after its recieved 2-3 hours of early morning light i move it inside in a room with good humidity and light, where i have my Aeroponic system, later after work i move it again outside where its get 2.5 hours of day light and leave it there till the morning.

Now been doing this for only the last 2 days, and i recieved the juniper a week ago.

And i really do not want to find out if this is harmful by myself and kill it.

So am seeking your experience in handling this situation.

I live 1 mile away from the sea, high humidity during summer specially august, dust storms can happen several times a year., many factors make me Feel worry,
Most pages talk about protecting junipers from frost, cant find the needed experience on internet or even in my area.

I hope this explination of my environment can help you to think with me on what can be done to save this bonsai from dieing.
As for juniper i know that its in so hot weather will sacrifice parts of it, maybe a whole branch and a portion of its trunk so the rest of it can stay alive, some time its good to let the nature take its course but this will be a very difficult gamble.


Things i done so far

Putting it in a bigger pot, i had to, its pot got broken during shipping

I watered it with 0.5% h2o2 (not h2o) so i increase the oxygen for roots so its take more water.

Gave it white shark powder to add beneficial bacteria and fungies for better function of its root system.
I removed lots of the juvinel since its couse water to evaporate faster from the tree.

I can explain as much as you need as long this will help you to give me your balueable advice.



I there my friend, sorry but I have not read every post in this thread yet.
In my area of Western Australia the temps can be over 40 degrees celcius for extended periods. This is not as hot as your 50 odd degrees however I can definately relate and offer my experience to you.

I water every single tree I own 3 times per day in Summer, in extended hot periods I will also hand water many times more than this.
It is vitally important that your Soil medium is very freedraining and does not hold water for more than half day. Your pot at present fits this description.
Overhead watering of a juniper is imo the best way because a Juniper would (as long as roots are in stable condition)
loves water thru the foliage but not alot at roots. Humidity in the right amount also help Junipr thrive.
As long as the soil medium has the ability to drain well and not hold moisture too long watering this way is totally fine, mnany people in Australia water thier 名媛直播 collections multiple time a day.
I will not advise you to take tree inside at all, that is your choice.

I hope this can help you a little,

I won't respond to any trolling.


yea its honestly not normal to see temp reach 50c, but this what it is last 10 years here
Saudi Arabia 52.0 °C (125.6 °F) Jeddah 22 June 2010[17]

last year reached 54c but cant find any records of that on internet, anyways
I mist it twice a day, and water it over 2 times a day, which its something I can handle, but the temps at this very minute is 42c, so this make me wonder how much more efforts I need to put later when its go over 50c later, its a challenge that I cant enjoy honestly, I think ill hang a water dripper on it or something and more shade hours.

as for rotating the plant, I agree with you, this why always the upper part of the tree is more active and grow faster since its always receive light.

Leatherback,

I mentioned in one of my replys

there are a bonsai grower in dubai and their weather can be worst than my area, ill try to ask him and ill share his reply here.


and he knows he is the only seller in Dubai from a previous topic here in the forum where the costumer said that this is the only bonsai seller in Dubai, lots of drama happened in that topic where both attacked each other, anyways its just not worth having that issue dragged to my topic, even his negative comments about him wasn't necessary at all whether he knows who did I consult or not, that guy is just 'helping', and just for the sake of wanting to form a good relation with the bonsai society ill forget the whole subject, and IF am mistaken and Auk says that am really mistaken then my apologies to him.
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #16048

xref wrote: and he knows he is the only seller in Dubai


I did not know you were referring to this bonsai seller, but that is irrelevant. What was being discussed was the quality of some of his bonsai. Nowhere did anyone write that the trees were not healthy.

its just not worth having that issue dragged to my topic


Seems the one who dragged it here is you...

IF am mistaken and Auk says that am really mistaken then my apologies to him.


I expect that someone who grows bonsai for a living, especially when it is in such a harsh area, will know much more about how to take care for them than I do. I have no doubt that in this case that is true too. Now please see my remark in that context.
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Posted 4 years 1 month ago #64210
Hi...not sure why I keep cropping up in the discussions...maybe, if people are unsure of bonsai care in the UAE climate, they should contact me directly. I have been involved in bonsai for 35 years...diversity of climates from St Petersburg Russia, most European countries and Florida, U.S.
What will grow quite happily indoors in UAE (Dubai) is Carmona, Ulmus P., Durantha Repens, Podocarpus and Premna. All Juniper are fine here, outdoors only...the occasional day/evening indoors. Our indoor temperature year-round is approx 21-26C and light levels are high.
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