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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #15910

Auk wrote: are you all still remembering what type of 'bonsai' you are talking about and the stage of the trees? This is like giving someone the instructions how to build a fighter jet, while all he did was ask how to fold a paper plane.


Ha... nicely put Auk. I liked that reference to avionics. Still, I feel that no matter how advanced o well developed Fuzz?s tree might be or how many of the desired features his tree accomplishes to be regarded as a "bonsai", those pieces of information won?t hurt. In fact, I believe that if he is serious about this art, there will be a point in which these words might be of help. Of course, how long would this passion endure in Fuzz?s life is something that perhaps only time and Fuzz himself would tell.

Now... I?m still laughing with that comparison :lol:

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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #15911
I think Alain is right, even though little of this makes much sense to me, I know it will come in handy. And this information isn't completely lost on me, my mum studied botany at university and we have owned an allotment for the past 5 years (Trust me, she know what you're on about!). so anything I don't understand I just redirect to her. I will look in to buying a few tools and try to keep this thing happy.

however, I now have discovered new bonsai, both Japanese maple. The first of which (pics:1-5) my mum has kept for a while and not knowing much about bonsai,hasn't trained it. Apparently it is about 10-15 years old and im wondering whether its too late to bonsai it. Any thoughts?
The second one is new (Pics: 6-8) my mum bought it at the same time as the redwood and looks to be only about a year old. This one im also interested in bonsai-ing. Is it possible and how should I start?

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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #15914

FuzzBang wrote: I think Alain is right


I disagree, because, as you write:

little of this makes much sense to me


You are a Noob (you said so :) ) so flooding you with information is pointless. You need to learn the basics first.

I will look in to buying a few tools and try to keep this thing happy


You really don't need that many tools. That what I use mostly is a pruning sheer. Occasionally I use a knob cutter.
I do have concave cutters, a root sheer, a tiny leaf sheer and more, but I really don't use them that often. I could do with just the pruning sheer. I do not have a root hook, chopsticks work fine - and cost nothing.

You may want to skip the next part...

It's sweet of your mother to buy these trees for you, but to be honest:
They are not really high quality. That's visible especially on the right tree - it's a cut off tree, with a very clearly visible cut, and a branch that's supposed to be the new top. This is actually a technique that is used in 名媛直播, but not this way. Making a good bonsai out of this material will be hard and will take ages, and when you leave them in the pot they are in, it will never happen.

What I would recommend:
It's a nice gift. Take good care of it. Learn to keep it alive and keep it very healthy. Do not wire or prune it, the trees do not have enough material to prune (though you may want to prune shoots that grow excessively long). learn the most important virtue in bonsai: patience. The trees will look nice, and in the future, if you do it right, look even nicer. They will not become a good bonsai though, for that more is required. Take the time to study bonsai, how to grow good trunks and how to create ramification.

Again, don't do too much with the trees - we see far to many stories here of people that pruned, repotted, wired and shaped their new tree - and killed it. Did I tell you yet that these trees belong outside?
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #15915

FuzzBang wrote: however, I now have discovered new bonsai, both Japanese maple


Both are not really bonsai, but the first one seems to have possibilities.
It doesn't look to fit though. You'll need more growth before you can do something with it.
The pot seems to be too small and I don't think I'd want that type of moss in my pots.
I would put it in the ground and let it grow for at least a year, so that hopefully it develops more branches and foliage.

The second tree looks healthier, but it is too young and too thin. it requirs a few years of growth. The species though is probably not to suitable for bonsai. I love japanese maples though (who doesn't) and if it was mine, I'd put it in my garden and let it grow freely.
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Posted 9 years 7 months ago #15919
I know that its not great quality and it will never be a decent bonsai, but I think it will be a good way to learn about them and to care for it. I'm Ok with the fact that its never going to be a particularly good bonsai. so as long as i can learn to look after it, that's enough for me for now.

You said 'flooding you with information is pointless.' however i was referring to the fact that i will be able to use this info later on, when it is needed. As for tools, I plan to buy them when I need them, if I don't need them, I wont buy them. as long as I have enough to do a half decent job of it., Then that's ok.

P.S. Yes I'm keeping it outside.
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