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This is getting a bit confusing... as two different trees are being discussed.

Samantha, were you talking about Kogno's tree, or the one Wannabe posted?

Can we continue in this thread with Kogno's tree only, and if Wannabe is still there - can you please open your own topic?

Thanks!

The leaves on Kogno's tree are more rounded off on the ends, at the way I see

Kogno's tree is an Ilex crenata.

ok