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This april, I'm going to do this for the first time. I found many advices on the net, and they're all pretty much the same, they talk about at least one year recovering, then gradual root thinning and pruning; but all are oriented to plants which are brought from far away. In my case, I live on a pedestal of this hill, from which I want to transplant, 1 km from the top maybe. Should the plant go through this period of recovery anyway? And if it should, when should I start shaping the plant and pruning the rootball? Can it be done at the same time? The plants I'm going to transplant initially are known for their endurance; like firehtorn, hawthorn, juniper. In my country it grows almost everywhere without any care. Thank you in advance.

If you have to ask this question, I would say you are not ready to start collecting.

The DISTANCE is not the problem. The treatment you give the plant is the reason for the recovery. And yes. Also for Firethorn.

You cannot collect a plant without pruning the roots, and in most cases you have to prune the plant.

Get someone who knows what he is doing and ask them to come with you and help you through every stage. Otherwise you will be killing plants, not collecting them. (One can wonder whether you have enough experience to keep the plants alive, if you do not know the basics)

I am a beginner here, as I said. People I have consulted (none from Montenegro, because there are no bonsai growers here),most of them, say that the rootballs shoud stay intact if I am going to transplant to my garden and not the pot at first. And recovery in their articles is on the different climate, soil and weather conditions. Some again, counter. I gathered all the basics, but this was something that didn't fit in the articles or the book I've read. I hope I didn't upset you with my lack of knowledge and experience :huh:

Don't worry. Everybody has to start from point zero. Just.. I would advice to not collect if you do not know what you are doing in general. Why not start with trying to grow potted plants in general first, and gain experience there?

You cannot collect a plant leave the rootbal intact. Roots are way longer than what you collect. And no, you do not put them in the garden unless you really have to. THat is exactly why it is tricky business. You need to be able to judge whether you need to prepare the roots first (Over on, two three or more years) or whether you can collect in one go. Then you nee to get them in a container, and convince them to start growing. Not so easy in all cases.

Hasn't spring alread come in Montenegro?

It has, 10 days ago. You see, I planted some ligustrum cuttings, just to try, 2 years ago. They rooted quickly and in one year, I got healthy pre-bonsai trees, which I didn't get to shape, because the interest in my surroundings was high and I sold every piece a year ago. Now, I am looking for an older tree, not too much old, that could be put in training in a year or two max. So I chose these species, as they are practically considered weeds here; they adapt wherever you throw them. Concerning ligustrum, of course I watered and fed it as recommended anyway, but there was an example in my own yard, where I just pruned the fence and few cuttings rooted where they fell. I'm planning a backyard nursery this year, and I don't have the space for all the pots, when building a greenhouse for the winter. That's why I have to plant it in the garden.

If it looks healthy and you are sure it will survive why not?
Especially when it grows like a weed over there I'd just dig it out and transplant it into your garden.
Perhaps you can try it first with a smaller, less beautiful specimen to see how big the chances are of surviving when you just take it with you.
If that experiment goes well, why not take the next one too like that?
Remember, not all specimens are the same, and not all of them will react to that treatment the same, but maybe it's worth a shot

Contrainer wrote: If it looks healthy and you are sure it will survive why not?
Especially when it grows like a weed over there I'd just dig it out and transplant it into your garden.
Perhaps you can try it first with a smaller, less beautiful specimen to see how big the chances are of surviving when you just take it with you.
If that experiment goes well, why not take the next one too like that?
Remember, not all specimens are the same, and not all of them will react to that treatment the same, but maybe it's worth a shot

I'd prefer it if people collect trees from 'the wild' that they know what they are doing and not experiment.. These are living breathing individuals, and a certain level of respect towards live is part of the bonsai phylosophy. And the more attractive a plant becomes for bonsai (And automatically, the older the specimen) the more respect one should have. Killing a 150 year old plant as an experiment does not sit well with me.

Respect for other living creatures is always important, especially when they can't stop you from doing stuff like digging them out, what obviously doesn't mean that other creatures deserve less.
Killing off any plant does not fit me (which sadly did happen anyways) and with me many others here, so that's why I said "and you are sure it will survive, why not?".
That one could does not mean one should.

Contrainer wrote: Killing off any plant does not fit me (which sadly did happen anyways) and with me many others here, so that's why I said "and you are sure it will survive, why not?".

Look aat the original post. This person has never done this. The experience with growing plants lies in 'some of the cuttings I took survived'. That person cannot judge whether a plant will ive or not. I have been growing plants for some 30 yeasrs, and I am baffled at times that certain plants die (Or better, live).

Any advice to just 'give it a trie and see whether it works'.. Nah, nog in my books

Okay Nikola, as LB has the better advise, I'd listen to him