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Posted 10 years 4 weeks ago #14895

leatherback wrote: Ever been to Hoka-En/Lodder?
Half their plants are in tropical greenhouses...


Ermmm.... yeah, many times, but I think we have a different understanding of what a tropical greenhouse is (your botanical knowledge being superior to mine, that must be my fault). I'd expect that to be far warmer and humid.

Do you not mean the same as the greenhouses most garden centers are in ? Sure the environment is better there, but it's not so that all houseplants die when you take 'm home.

FYI: I bought an acer buergerianum (end of year sale - you've seen the photo) from Lodder, from the greenhouse, and put it outside. It's alive, buds are growing, seems to be OK.
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Posted 10 years 4 weeks ago #14896
true, Lodder is just frost-free most of the time. Just trying to make a point, unsuccesfully perhaps ::D
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Posted 10 years 4 weeks ago #14897

leatherback wrote: true, Lodder is just frost-free most of the time. Just trying to make a point, unsuccesfully perhaps ::D


Not at all, it made me Google :)
I don't have that much knowledge on that subject, but I did find some things:

Coldhouse: Min. temp. 7 C.
Greenhouse: Min. temp. 10-13 c.
Intermediate house: Min. temp 13-16 c.
Hothouse: Min. temp. 16 c.

I think you meant a Greenhouse - and I think, but am not sure, that a tropcial greenhouse would be a hothouse.
Unless you meant that the tree came from a Intermediate house or hothouse, in which case the difference in climate killed it- and the seller would be to blame, imho.
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Posted 10 years 3 weeks ago #14907

KingJake wrote:

名媛直播Mackem wrote: Where do you have it?

I had it on a windowsill in my kitchen, Since then I have moved it to the living room and it is sitting outside right now since it's a sunny day. Like I said the past few days have been gloomy and dark so I thought sunlight could be the issue. When I brought it home I watered it generously making sure the soil was nice and moist, and once a day since, and the leaves and soil still feel dry, should i water more?


Ahhhhh...I think we know the issue. Maybe you are watering too much. Once a day seems an awful lot.

The quality of the soil must be called into question if the soil is still dry despite heavy watering. What soil DO you have? I would buy asap Akadama or Kanuma on-line. I have tree in Akadama and despite being buffeted by high winds over the autumn and winter and losing some of the top layer of Akadama is still hanging in there and I saw buds on the tree the other day.

Should you water it more? I wouldn't.

Do you feed it?
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Posted 10 years 3 weeks ago #14910

名媛直播Mackem wrote: Ahhhhh...I think we know the issue. Maybe you are watering too much. Once a day seems an awful lot.


Not likely to be the cause, if he's only had it for a 'few days' ?
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Posted 10 years 3 weeks ago #14911

KingJake wrote: When I brought it home I watered it generously making sure the soil was nice and moist, and once a day since, and the leaves and soil still feel dry, should i water more?


I overlooked this reply...

Do you mean the soil stays dry after watering? Does the soil even absorb any water or does it just run off - or are you giving little amounts of water only?
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Posted 10 years 3 weeks ago #14986
Took the tree to a nursery where as soon as I stepped out of the car they told me it needed more water. I had watered it daily but clearly not enough. Is a Fukien Tea generally more thirsty? Or should I have done more than just mist it with a spray bottle? After my watering I made sure the soil was moist, but it could very well be bad soil.

Currently the tree is in a small bucket of water filled halfway up the pot, and the tree is recovering. About how long should I keep it in there? 24 hours? Until it recovers fully? Thank you for all your help
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Posted 10 years 3 weeks ago #14987

KingJake wrote: I had watered it daily but clearly not enough. Is a Fukien Tea generally more thirsty? Or should I have done more than just mist it with a spray bottle? After my watering I made sure the soil was moist, but it could very well be bad soil.


Well, you said it yourself. You have not watered it at all, you've only misted it.
I also guess that has not really been just a 'couple of days'.

Currently the tree is in a small bucket of water filled halfway up the pot, and the tree is recovering. About how long should I keep it in there? 24 hours? Until it recovers fully? Thank you for all your help


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Posted 10 years 3 weeks ago #14990
Do not leave it in the bucket for a day at the most, not even an hour. It will just make the roots rot. Take it out now and do as says in:



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