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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13060
Has anyone tried to grow indoor pine or juniper . Is it possible? But just like the pines and juniper trees are more outdoors .

I live in an apartment with central heating but I have a lot of light and large windows . Does it make sense to test at all . Or should be limited to indoor bonsai ?

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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13061
The reason we say to put them outside is because we have tested already, you can test, we arent stopping you but we are sure that a nursery bought pine will only survive two days. If you grow it from seed or cutting, mine only lasted two years (yep, i tested). The reason is that the indoor environment with central heating is too dry an to warm, answer this, do you see pine or junipers (a lot of them) in the sahara or kalahari?

You can try but it would be best if you could put the pines or junipers outside. They were meant to be outside originally by nature. Things like insects and other things, they live together with plants. Good luck growing your pine indoors if you try, but as i said, they would do best outside and not inside (practically die). ;)
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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13062
Sorry, i forgot to add, growing "indoor" bonsai is not a limitation. It can be as vast as the outdoor trees. I am growing a box, privet, and a chinese elm. I am also only allowed to grow indoors, so all my plants are indoors. The plants i have are thriving and are sub tropical and partly hardy. There are almost no limits to whichever species you grow. Like in osaka, japan, quite a while back in time, the majority of bonsai were satsuki azaleas and they wer stunning. For now i think it would be best to keep your trees healthy and living. ;)
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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13063
Pines and r are hardy species. They require conditions that allow them to thrive and grow. The conditions of a centrally heated house is a killer. It will not allow a winter period when temperatures drop to or below freezing, this means that they will not have the correct life cycle. They may survive for a while, but not long. If you must have trees indoors in such hostile environments then stick to tropical species that can tolerate the conditions.
Try a Bouganvillea, or Pomegramate, or similar.
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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13064
Pomegranite and bougainvilla are supurb suggestions. To help make it more humid try placing dishes of water around your windowsill.
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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13065
Yes, a juniper, it only lasted a few weeks.
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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13066

bob wrote: Pomegranite and bougainvilla are supurb suggestions. To help make it more humid try placing dishes of water around your windowsill.

e dishes should not just have water, It needs gravel or sand in and this is kept wet. I have just brought my Bouganvillea in as it is getting colder and I want to keep the leaves
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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13067
"This myth goes along the same lines as misting 名媛直播. It’s a load of b*llocks. The excess water collected within the trays used underneath indoor 名媛直播 won’t produce enough evaporated water droplets to help the tree in any way.

They are designed purely for one reason, and for one reason only – to prevent water drips staining your valuable furniture. Simple really."

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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13068
Although I think that having a humidity tray does not help much, some easy calculations will tell you yourself whether it makes sense..

Say that in winter your house has a relative humidity of 40%, a point at which you roughly start drawing electrostatic shocks. Say you want to raise this to a level of 80%, a level you can expect in moist tropics. From the graph at you can then read that, at 20 degrees celcius (room temperature) you need to increase the amount of water in the air with almost 6 grammes of water for each cubic metre of air. For a room of 5*4 metres that would result in 5*4*2 = 40 cubic metres, times 6ml = 240ml. So you would need half a pint of water extra in the air. Just for the room.

Now take the whole house, as the rooms exchanges air with the rest of the house, you would easily have 6 times the volume. So you would need to add 3 pints of water into the air. And that not once.. but several times a day, as air in your house is continuously replced (Houses are not airtight (Otherwise you would suffocate in your home!)

SSo.. If you can evaporate a bucket of water every day, it make sa difference. A tiny layer in a tray.. Does not..
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Posted 10 years 3 months ago #13069
you are some Einstein!! ;) i couldn't work that out for the life of me!!

i don't need a roomful of humid air. i just need half a room size (2#3#3) so i just put about five medium shallow-ish dishes of water on my wndowsill and it raises my humidity to about 60-70% (originally being 50 %). it does make a difference, because all i need is that little extra up in humidity.
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