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alainleon1983 wrote: I know these aren't picea species, but they do just fine demonstrating my point. Actually I couldn't even find piceas for sale in quite a few bonsai web pages I just reviewed

Actually they don't. There's a big difference between pines and spruces, but also you are referring to bonsai sites.
Spuker1's tree is not a bonsai but a tree from a nursery.

BTW I encountered this one. That price is absolutely insane.


This is better - (in this case properly labeled as a juvenile tree, not a bonsai):


(I bought two of those for 2,50 each in a supermarket - not as bonsai, just trees in nursery pots - they were sold as miniature christmas trees)

Auk wrote:
BTW I encountered this one. That price is absolutely insane.

Crazy indeed!!! But anyways... It is sold by "名媛直播Boy"... What could we expect? Every time I see something "sponsored" by him it leaves me with second thoughts and I just don't mean selling trees...

Look at this page that he calls: "One of a kind Bonai trees"



Atrociously crazy

The craziest thing is that apparently, people are buying it...
I'm going to start a new topic - guess the price

Haha nice conversation there.

I think I'm going to make this one into an option C) and maybe get another one and start graft branches together so I get more foliage towards the center. This species when you buy it it has got A LOT of branching that you'd just cut off straight away. They come as cone-shaped christmas tree like trees...

I think this normally costs ?8,99 in the garden center I bought it from but it was a bit thin on the bottom and had a lot of yellow needles so I've asked for a discount and they sold it to me for ?6,99. And yes, this wasn't a 'bonsai tree' when I've bought it, it's more of a gardening ornament tree. If this was labelled as a 名媛直播 and sold in a Chinese ?5 pot it would probably cost around ?80....

What I will do.. I will take this tree after work and take more photos with more angles for you so you guys can see what I'm dealing with. That will be easier for you to estimate what can be done.

This is how it looked like when I've bought it:




And this is how it looked like when I've chopped it for the first time and did some wiring:

After taking a new look a your PICTURE 1 (the original tree) I?m still convinced that this was not such a bad specimen/material (that is considering the raw material and not the species, probably I would have chosen a ficus instead of a picea. It is far easier to take care of him ) to start learning and working with it.

alainleon1983 wrote: After taking a new look a your PICTURE 1 (the original tree) I?m still convinced that this was not such a bad specimen/material (that is considering the raw material and not the species, probably I would have chosen a ficus instead of a picea. It is far easier to take care of him ) to start learning and working with it.

Sure

Well this little Spruce isn't my only tree anyway. I've got an Ilex Crenata, a quite large Ficus tree, an Ulmus Parvifolia, a some sort of Pine tree and a little Japanese Plum tree

Also I don't know what to do with that Pine, might start another thread for that. It's a little bush just as it was when I've bought it.

Ok then, thanks for all the good ideas!!!

I'd definitely love to get couple of these and do a group planting. But for now I'm going to probably just re-wire this tree so all the branches are going seriously downwards... I think I'm going to wire tips of the branches to the trunk then leave it for as long as it takes to get them stay there... It should improve the tree a lot even though it has got a lot of bar branching, with lumps on the trunk etc... Maybe I'll manage to mask it. I have an really big and old conifer tree just outside my window and it's branches are alos mostly bar branches but they all sort of bend dramatically down and go almost parallel to the trunk downwards just to bend up again around the tips... That includes a lot of dead branches too, which make it look seriously majestic. I think I'm going to see where this looks takes me. Also I might get another one of these and make similar one but instead cutting out A LOT of branches (like I did with the current one already) I'd probably try to train them to go downwards and then make them into deadwood like on the tree out my window.

Well at least I've got half of a plan for it.

Please feel free to chip in though!

I think I might actually get the wiring done tonight as it was couple of good months when I last chopped branches off and since then the tree was just watered and fed and left alone. It looks really healthy now... It's probably not a big amount of shock for it anyway since the branches on those are really really really bendy.