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I don't like the second juniper much. The first one is more interesting, but needs work, the foliage needs to be developed to become more dense. The larch is not too bad, but seems overpriced.

I would choose the first one. Juniperus Squamata Meyerii is quite forgiving (I know, I have one that has tolerated me for 12 years). It is easier to keep than most other Junipers, it's a bit more challenging to refine the foliage, but it can be done and it certainly can become a nice tree.

Thank you Auk for your great reply, gave me food for thought for sure. Your tree is really something, would love to achieve similar one day. Can I ask you the same as I did leatherback on the learning bonsai thing?

Kind regards

Deansie

The photo actually was of the bench I made this weekend, the tree happened to be on it, so I cut it out of the original photo. I should make a better photo... may do that later.

I did not have that much experience when I got this tree. It is outside, has been in a large pot for years, and was potted two years ago. It is not a difficult tree, it tolerates a lot. If you like it and can buy it - just keep it alive and look at it.
Try to imagine what you want it to look like in the future, where the branches should be, and try to figure out why I say the foliage needs work

There is no immediate need to prune, wire or repot it. You have time to learn. Keeping it alive and making it thrive is the first and most important part of what you need to learn. The rest can come later.

Thanks Auk, it would be great to see some photos of your tree and any others when have the time.
I couldn't see a photo section? Thought there would have been for folk to post pictures of there tree, I did notice the progression section.

Your advice on just keeping the tree alive for and imagining where id like the branches to go etc in time is along the lines I was thinking, thank you.

Can I ask how long you have been in the hobby?

Getting experience is usually over a few tree-corpses. So better start with smaller (younger) trees. I find nursery stock an ideal starting pont: They have relatively small rootballs. Are well-developed branching-wise. So you can buy one, and style it the same day. You take care of it for the rest of summer. In spring you repot into bonsai trays. THat will give you experience in trimming, wiring, caretaking and repotting. And if the plants don't survive the first year, you know you are not ready for more mature, expensive, rare, ..., specimens. If they all survive the first year, you can consider buying more advanced plants. But that is just me. I like killing trees of several decade old less than killing a 2 year old cutting. And if I am throwing money out of the window, I rather start with pennies over euros.

deansie26 wrote: In my no shit honest opinion? Lol

What I meant was in my not so humble opinion. But my no-shit honest opinion works even better maybe

Thanks leatherback for the reply, great points and made a lot of sense.
I'm going to have a think before buying. Without sounding pig headed I've never been one to start on the side of caution whether it's keeping leafcutter ants in a clinical set up or keeping position arrow dart frogs- I usually jump right in lol.
I'm pretty observant and keep my house plants alive and doing well but I wouldn't like to be back here in a year having killed that nice tree either!
Thanks for clarifying the the abbreviation ha ha

Auk wrote: (I know, I have one that has tolerated me for 12 years).

Beautiful tree Auk. I'm kind of envying you right now :evil:

i am sorry, this has already been mentioned, but i cannot help it.

deansie26 wrote: In my no shit honest opinion? Lol

that is one of the funniest things i have seen on this forum! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

the way i learnt how to bonsai (in my poetic speach) it to leap before i have yet walked :lol: (i am over-using these LOL signs!)