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Posted 10 years 5 months ago #11836
Hello I have a few maples I hope to train into bonsai but have aquired a cute kiyohime but it has an ugly graft onto root stock, can I airlayer above the stock to as to remove it once new root system has grown or are the chance that it won't root. I understand that some palmatum's are grafted because they find it hard to root but guessing most are simply grafted on to a root stock to make bigger plants quicker and thus more cash. Many thanks
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Posted 10 years 5 months ago #11838
The reason Acers are grafted is to get vigour not because they won't root. It also is the variety, Kyohyme is said to be a dwarf variety. I am not sure if it will take, maybe someone else would like to comment. It will depend on the country you are in when to try.
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Posted 10 years 5 months ago #11840
I live in uk so it's not something I'm thinking of attempting until spring but just wanted to put the question out there. If people don't think it's a great idea then I can just airlayer the rootstock so it sends out roots nearer the kiyomine thus solving the problem but then if I want to build up the root structure should they be grafted to the root stock or the kiyomine? So it goes round in circles and always comes back to my original question . Thank you for your fast reply and thoughts
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Posted 10 years 5 months ago #11841
A picture might help a bit more. I bought a Kiyohime earlier this year and the graft is not obtrisive. It was bought for me in Holland. You will as you say have to leave the air layer now until next year, which is a pity, but it is too late now.
Where in UK are you? I am in Westbury in Wiltshire. If you can do a picture it will be useful I am sure,
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Posted 10 years 5 months ago #11844
I have enclosed a picture and as you can see something needs to be done!! I could simply put wire around the plant and root stock where that meet and let that part swell before airlayering there, that way it would have both root structure from root stock and the plant itself. I know I need to wait to do what ever I decide in spring but if I ask now I won't have to ask then. I live in maldon, Essex
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Posted 10 years 5 months ago #11845
That is a terrible graft! It must be one of the worst I have seen. I think it would be worth trying an air layer, Did you buy it as Kiyohime?
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Posted 10 years 5 months ago #11846
Yes bought as a kiyohime and yes it's terrible. I will defiantly airlayer it but wanted some input as to where as it would be nice completely disregarding the rootstock and taking it from the plant itself but not sure if it will work, if not plan be would be to airlayer it as close to the end of th root stock as possible so it can be hidden.
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