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Pinkham wrote:
Here is a suggestion. I did this to a privet last year.
I pot layered the top off the tree by cutting an inch ring in the bark, dusted it with rooting hormone and planted the tree deep in a pot and left it for a year. This spring I took it out and separated the tree. I now have a short tree.
Follow air layering instructions, but instead of wrapping plastic wrap around the wound plant it deep in a pot.


Genius! This is what ill do with this tree.. so when i repot it i just carve away a little ring of bark to promote new root growth.

I do not see how air-layering, or pot-layering could help this tree in its development. What benefit will you get from moving the root system further up the trunk? What is the reason you want to shorten this tree?

I think it would look cool shorter. Thats the only reason.

James,

I'm sorry for being a bit harsh on you. I don't want to upset you or discourage you in any way. I know from experience that small thing you do on trees this young/small can have a huge impact later. I just don't want you to make the same mistakes I did back in the days before these forums exists only to regret them later.

Maybe it's a good idea just to slow down a bit. Study the different bonsai styles and learn aesthetics. A good beginners bonsai course can help to. Then, try to imagine what it can look like in 15, 20 or 50 years instead of what it can look like today or tomorrow. Figure out a plan for this tree and base your decisions on that plan. Maybe you could do this together with an experienced bonsaika. If you can't think of a good plan, it's better to do nothing and let it grow undisturbed until you have.

well i took some time and this is how i would resolve the shortening issue. this is also a more traditional styling for an upright juni.having it in a cascade pot and not cascading looks funny to me

manofthetrees wrote: well i took some time and this is how i would resolve the shortening issue. this is also a more traditional styling for an upright juni.having it in a cascade pot and not cascading looks funny to me

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That looks awesome! great idea you have there. So how can I achieve this? Perhaps I can keep it wired for a year, unwire it and plant it in a large pot for a year or 2, and then re wire it into that shape?

dsdevries wrote: James,

I'm sorry for being a bit harsh on you. I don't want to upset you or discourage you in any way. I know from experience that small thing you do on trees this young/small can have a huge impact later. I just don't want you to make the same mistakes I did back in the days before these forums exists only to regret them later.

Maybe it's a good idea just to slow down a bit. Study the different bonsai styles and learn aesthetics. A good beginners bonsai course can help to. Then, try to imagine what it can look like in 15, 20 or 50 years instead of what it can look like today or tomorrow. Figure out a plan for this tree and base your decisions on that plan. Maybe you could do this together with an experienced bonsaika. If you can't think of a good plan, it's better to do nothing and let it grow undisturbed until you have.

Thats a good idea. My local bonsai nursery offers classes twice a month. I should definitely check them out. As far as traditional styling guidelines go, I prefer to just do my own thing and have fun with it. The thing im worried about most is harming my trees. I need to learn how to style and transform my trees while keeping them alive and healthy.

the tree is already wired so you could do this now.the only issue is if that wire is really secure at the base if it is not it will not hold.bend it slowly do it while holding the just below the bending point. seeing that the trunk isnt that thick it shouldnt be that tough.just be carefull. it may have to go a little bit and rest then in a week bend it to the final shape i cant tell exactly how thick it is
this would be the best time to do it .it is springtime it will have all summer and fall to repair itself and next spring the wire will come off. the longer you wait the harder it will be to bend

"I do not see how air-layering, or pot-layering could help this tree in its development. What benefit will you get from moving the root system further up the trunk? What is the reason you want to shorten this tree?"

It's not up to me to decide the style for this tree. I was just offering an answer to his question.

I really really like that pot. The color suits the juniper well. If you happy with the thickness then go ahead and pot it . It won't thicken much if at all in the pot tho.

Ok.. So i made the bend more drastic and brought the focus of the tree lower in the vertical field. Im quite happy with the way it looks now. What I will do is keep it wired for a year and then put it in a very large pot to thicken the trunk up for a year or 2.. I was amazed how much that trunk was willing to bend. Dam those junipers are flexible

I also took a close up pic of my wiring job. I am proud of it for my first time