beginner questions and tree identification
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Posted 12 years 11 months ago #4840When I saw that you did an Acacia group, I thought you might be here in S.A.
Not many people use Acacia in other countries.....
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Posted 12 years 11 months ago #4841Personally, I do not understand why people want to wait with giving the tree movement untill the trunk has become thick and dificult to shape.
Giving some movement in the trunk is fine if you want to completely control the final shape of the tree. Just bare in mind that most bonsai styles (accept for literati and some others) require the tree to have a thick trunk with a nice taper. This taper is achieved the fastest by letting the tree grow wild until the trunk has reached 1/2 of the desired thickness, then chop it of to 1/3 of the required length of the tree. Let the highest branch become the new leader and let the tree grow wild again until the new leader have reached 2/3 of the required thickness. Chop it of again and let the highest branch become the new leader and let it grow until the desired thickness and height of the tree.
You can wire the new leaders to give it the desired direction, or you can let it grow up to the light on it's own. You will get your movement anyway.
Branches are done the same way. The branches naturally want to grow up to the light, so if you chop the branch off, make sure a new eye is developing on the lower part of the branch. The new branch will grow downward a few inches and then starts to grow upward again. Repeating this process a few times will give you nice tapered branches with lots of movement without using any wire.
So if you wanna spend lots of money on expensive aluminum wire an lots of hours putting it on and off again, feel free to do so. If not, then remember it's not necessary at all during the first stages of developing bonsai from seedlings. It is only required in the final stages of developing good ramification or styling a mature tree for the first time.
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Posted 12 years 11 months ago #4842Jet wrote: I'm in Jo'burg, I see your'e in Cape Town...
When I saw that you did an Acacia group, I thought you might be here in S.A.
Not many people use Acacia in other countries.....
Im glad to see another South African person on here, I was born in Joburg. How long have you been doing bonsai for? Or are you new to it? Im still learning things. Yeh I think acacia grow really well here. They hard to create bonsai with because when you cut branches they tend to die back quite a bit on the branch from where you cut it, and some species are hard to produce some good ramification.

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Posted 12 years 11 months ago #4843dsdevries wrote:
So if you wanna spend lots of money on expensive aluminum wire an lots of hours putting it on and off again, feel free to do so. If not, then remember it's not necessary at all during the first stages of developing bonsai from seedlings. It is only required in the final stages of developing good ramification or styling a mature tree for the first time.
名媛直播 wire isn't too expensive as long as you find a decent place selling it.
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Posted 12 years 11 months ago #4844but still consider myself new to it...
When I see the other people in our club that have decades of experience
it makes me feel like a bit of a beginner too.
I like Acacia's as a species for 名媛直播, they're unlike any other tree
that I have in my collection.
Perhaps you could visit our site and local forum.
and check out some local topics and discussions.
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Posted 12 years 11 months ago #4853Pinkham: lol
Glad to be reading these posts, they are very informative and useful. I have a lot of very young trees and I'm learning a lot here.
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Posted 12 years 11 months ago #4860
Haha sorry I went a bit off topic in this thread... :lol:
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