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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84735
Hello everyone,

I’ve had my Chinese elm bonsai?for about 2?months now. I got it from a bonsai store as a present from my brother.?It is a cascade style in a deep bonsai pot, like a vertical rectangle.?

The elm?has done really well for?the first 1,5 months. Lot's of new growth, beautiful leaves.?However, it’s struggling a bit now that fall has started and temperatures have dropped to around 17°C here.

I keep it in a southwest-facing window where it gets plenty of light, though slightly less now as some outdoor trees are casting shade. I water it whenever the soil feels slightly dry, by watering it from the top until water starts coming out the bottom. I have?fertilized it?with liquid fertilizer every 1.5 weeks, but stopped this now that the winter is coming.?Additionally, I mist it twice a week.

Recently, though, the three has started to lose a lot of leaves. I think it is already at about half the leaves it originally had. The falling leaves have not turned yellow. They fall when they are green.?

I’m wondering what could be the issue here, or if there is an issue at all? Maybe it just losses all of its leaves in the winter??

Any advice or tips you have would be much appreciated!

Thank you!
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84736
Firstly, you have it inside, so what happens outside has no effect on it. It should be outside not in. There is nothing worse than the dry heated house with low light, it will suffer as it seems to be doing and if you are lucky will still be alive next year. If it was outside then it would be losing leaves, but inside it should not be. As we have no idea what it looks like we cannot offer much else. You need to put it outside unless you are getting frost, then you will need to acclimatise it. Watering is crucial and must be as needed not to a schedule.
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84737
Yes, chinese elms is semi decidious and will lose all leafs in winter in some climates. But beiing indoors will not trigger natural leaf drop and 17 degrees is far from when that can occure. I think this is more a situation of stress induced by your heating system kicking in and drieing out the air.

My recomendation is to move the tree outdoors where it belongs, trying to grow trees in the hostile environment of livingroom conditions is just a challenge not worth the effort. Outdoors your tree will be more healthy, grow better and develop faster.
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84738
I have floor heating in my living room. But is does not get very dry, it is more like the other way around. I have a humidity problem. I am trying to find a way to keep it inside. But also do not want too kill it. So if there is no other solution, i will put it outside. I bought it as an indoor bonsai at a bonsai specialist here in the Netherlands.?

Also i am wondering, if i put it outside. Wont it get too much water? As it is raining here in the Netherlands a lot.?

Also, I was trying to upload pictures to further clarify. However i cant seem to figure out how to. I have done it before on the forum, but cant figuer it out now. There is an option to upload via URL? but there should be another option right?
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84739
There is no such thing as indoor trees. No species in the whole world live naturally indoors. The art of bonsai has been practiced in asia for more than 2000 years always outdoors. The idea of keeping bonsai indoors started about 20 years ago in the western world. It has nothing to do with bonsai really. It is not powered by the need of the trees, but by the craving of people to keep trees indoors and by profit searching companies that makes more money by putting a indoor lable on the trees.

In the netherlands chinese elm should be perfectly hardy and no protection is needed.
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84740
Okay, thank you! I will put it outside. Hopefully this way it stays alive. Any ideas on placement? Should i try to keep it, out of the rain but in the sun? Or is that not really necessary? Should it be protected when its freezing??
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名媛直播033 wrote: Okay, thank you! I will put it outside. Hopefully this way it stays alive. Any ideas on placement? Should i try to keep it, out of the rain but in the sun? Or is that not really necessary? Should it be protected when its freezing??


It has been answered in my last post:

"In the netherlands chinese elm should be perfectly hardy and no protection is needed."
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