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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84723

mykee wrote: Where did you usually let them? I always let it on the window with arround 2 hours of direct sun light and the rest with just a bright shade.?

Where should i put it? I heard this species should be indoor on winter.

Summer: Outdoor in full southern exposure in southern sweden. That means blasting it in at least 14?hours of full summer sun each day.

Indoors do not mean livingroom conditions. To make it survive winter it needs to be chilled down. It is a subtropical species. I keep my sageretias in heated overwintering room in my greenhouse that is set on thermostat at 5 degrees in winter. If I am lucky they get 10 hours of sun per month october to mars. And that winter sun is not that strong.

All trees are exposed to flucturations in nature, even the tropical ones. Flucturations in temperature, humidity, wind, sun rain between day and night, between different days?as well as between different seasons. The stable livingroom conditions kills most trees sooner or later.
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84726
So i cant just let it sit there on my room...

Well it was my first bonsai, i wasnt rly prepared for it.

Maybe if i bought it now, it would go better.

I dont think i wanna buy another one so quickly, i need to make a lil space to put the "new bonsai" (which i dont have yet, as i said, if i buy another one its gonna take time) outside, with like a plastic to prevent direct sunlight for a time, a place where it gets enough air and can breath, etc...

Something like a greenhouse, a little one for the "new bonsai".?

Am i in the right way now?? Should i have done that on the start??
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84727
The best way to start in bonsai is to buy locally hardy species and grow them outdoors year round. Then there are no worries about too cold, too hot and you can focus on basic?care and creation.
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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84728
Can you give me some species that i can buy?

I live in Portugal and the weather here is like: 1 day is hot and the other is raining alot, we are in november and the weather here now is always changing alot a day to another.

Can you give me a good (and not so expensive ofc) bonsai species that can live in a hot sun and a cold raining ambient too?? If you dont mind ...

A species so strong that lives almost any ambient, just needs normal watering and all that. A bonsai that can almost live alone, so i dont get into the same risks of killing it.

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Posted 1 month 1 week ago #84729
The best thing to do is to look what trees grows in gardens, parks and forests around you. That is the best species for you.

In most of Portugal I would expect sageretia to be fully hardy. According to Google search it is hardy in usda zone 8 or higher. A good guideline for bonsai in shallow pots is to add one zone. So zone 9 or higher. Most of Portugal is 9 or 10. Your tree was killed by indoor keeping, not due to your location.

One common species sold as mallsai that is really easy and hardy to your area is chinese elm, most often labled as zelkova in Europe.

If I was growing trees in Portugal, I would definetely try to make a bonsai from the portugese oak.
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