Hakuro dwarf cork bark black pine
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I just got this tree from Bill Valavanis and was wanting some help not sure how to handle the design of it with the two trunks. Any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks.
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Could you try again to add your photos?
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Very nice tree!
My eyes may be old and not perfect. But I am not able to see two trunks on this tree.
My eyes may be old and not perfect. But I am not able to see two trunks on this tree.
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I took some better pictures sorry.
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I can understand the dilemma.
I usually look at a two trunk split and try to identify which one to keep that gives most tapering and movement. But also which one will leave a nicelly positioned branch close to the cut.
Using your picture 2 as base for discussion as with the given photos it looks like the best front to me. There may be other posibilities that has not been shown or that you personally prefere.
Keepin the right trunk makes the best taper, but keeping the left one gives the best mowement. Both of them seems like they have nicely positioned branches. If the right trunk is shosen, the left branch should stay. If the left trunk is shosen, one out of two right branches should stay. So really three options to concider if the two trunks cannot be accepted. The forth option is to keep both of them and use them as a first split of the apex for a much smaller tree.
The forth option will take much longer to make a nice tree as it will take much backbudding before the apex can be styled. I am not sure about how well this species backbud, something you really need to investigate If that is your prefered option.
I think my choise would be keeping the left trunk and the branch that apears to be highest in the picture. For me movement is more important than taper for pines. And after all, taper will develop given time, just so much slower and not that much. But changing the mowement cannot be done going forward.
When I have a challenge like this i spend hours looking at the tree from all angles over a period of several months, sometimes years before I make the final decition. And I urge you to do the same. Try to find the beauty in the tree. You are the artist, it is your tree and you are the one that needs to live with the actions you take.
Good luck!
I usually look at a two trunk split and try to identify which one to keep that gives most tapering and movement. But also which one will leave a nicelly positioned branch close to the cut.
Using your picture 2 as base for discussion as with the given photos it looks like the best front to me. There may be other posibilities that has not been shown or that you personally prefere.
Keepin the right trunk makes the best taper, but keeping the left one gives the best mowement. Both of them seems like they have nicely positioned branches. If the right trunk is shosen, the left branch should stay. If the left trunk is shosen, one out of two right branches should stay. So really three options to concider if the two trunks cannot be accepted. The forth option is to keep both of them and use them as a first split of the apex for a much smaller tree.
The forth option will take much longer to make a nice tree as it will take much backbudding before the apex can be styled. I am not sure about how well this species backbud, something you really need to investigate If that is your prefered option.
I think my choise would be keeping the left trunk and the branch that apears to be highest in the picture. For me movement is more important than taper for pines. And after all, taper will develop given time, just so much slower and not that much. But changing the mowement cannot be done going forward.
When I have a challenge like this i spend hours looking at the tree from all angles over a period of several months, sometimes years before I make the final decition. And I urge you to do the same. Try to find the beauty in the tree. You are the artist, it is your tree and you are the one that needs to live with the actions you take.
Good luck!
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Is there anyone who can tell me how well these do back bud?
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I was walking by tree and stood a this angle to the front that bill had picked you can see both trunks. What are your thoughts. I kind of like it better.
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If your prefered design includes both trunks it makes sense to display both of them. If you like it, go for it.
Since it is authum now, there are no reason to make any decitions now. Take your time to study the tree and think about different options.
Bill is a very skilled bonsai artist, but this tree has not got much time of thought yet. It is a good starter material, I would not treat it as a legacy tree. It needs your design, not Bills.
Since it is authum now, there are no reason to make any decitions now. Take your time to study the tree and think about different options.
Bill is a very skilled bonsai artist, but this tree has not got much time of thought yet. It is a good starter material, I would not treat it as a legacy tree. It needs your design, not Bills.
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You are right. Just trying to make the right decisions so I don’t set the tree back years in development.
Making a unique tree using what the tree has to give, it took a year and a half to set the structure on my Mugo pine. Now I’m working on building secondary branching.
I’m 60 and just starting a hobby that takes years to see the fruits of your labor. All of my trees are in development so I question my self when making design decisions. I’m not saying I want the fastest way to a bonsai, I just don’t want to lose time best spent developing with what each tree has to offer.
Making a unique tree using what the tree has to give, it took a year and a half to set the structure on my Mugo pine. Now I’m working on building secondary branching.
I’m 60 and just starting a hobby that takes years to see the fruits of your labor. All of my trees are in development so I question my self when making design decisions. I’m not saying I want the fastest way to a bonsai, I just don’t want to lose time best spent developing with what each tree has to offer.
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