Advice for a Beginner with a Japanese Maple
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Posted 1 year 9 months ago #79710
Hi everyone, I'm brand new to 名媛直播, but I wanted to get your opinions on a Japanese Maple I have in my yard.
About 17 years ago we moved to a property that had two Japanese Maples on it and unfortunately the previous owner planted them in really bad spots and over time I've had to move one of the maples twice to a new location, and the second maple also now needs to be moved as it's not doing very well where it's at due to other overgrown bushes around it (blackberry prickle bushes etc.)
So originally I was going to move the maple somewhere else on the property, but I just recently discovered the art of 名媛直播 and instantly fell in love. I'm a total beginner and want to get a few small 名媛直播 to learn with, but I also have this Japanese Maple that I am now wondering if maybe I could turn into a 名媛直播 tree in a pot, instead of moving it to another location on the property.
The tree is about 3' tall and about 3' wide. The trunk is about 3-4" thick. I am thinking if I can rescue it from it's current spot and move it into a 名媛直播 pot and learn how to take care of it that way, it might become a very beautiful tree. If I keep it where it's at, it will die, so I kind of have nothing to lose really.
What advice would you guys give on attempting such a thing?
Also, what other advice would you have for a total beginner. I bought 2 books, waiting for them to arrive, and I'm also looking at taking some courses on here to learn the basics. I'm super excited to start learning this.
-Paul
About 17 years ago we moved to a property that had two Japanese Maples on it and unfortunately the previous owner planted them in really bad spots and over time I've had to move one of the maples twice to a new location, and the second maple also now needs to be moved as it's not doing very well where it's at due to other overgrown bushes around it (blackberry prickle bushes etc.)
So originally I was going to move the maple somewhere else on the property, but I just recently discovered the art of 名媛直播 and instantly fell in love. I'm a total beginner and want to get a few small 名媛直播 to learn with, but I also have this Japanese Maple that I am now wondering if maybe I could turn into a 名媛直播 tree in a pot, instead of moving it to another location on the property.
The tree is about 3' tall and about 3' wide. The trunk is about 3-4" thick. I am thinking if I can rescue it from it's current spot and move it into a 名媛直播 pot and learn how to take care of it that way, it might become a very beautiful tree. If I keep it where it's at, it will die, so I kind of have nothing to lose really.
What advice would you guys give on attempting such a thing?
Also, what other advice would you have for a total beginner. I bought 2 books, waiting for them to arrive, and I'm also looking at taking some courses on here to learn the basics. I'm super excited to start learning this.
-Paul
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Posted 1 year 9 months ago #79715
Absolutely the best advice: find a local bonsai group and go to meetings, meet people, go to whatever workshops they have, schmooze up a couple of them, and a year from now ask a new friend how to dig it up.
That may be difficult.
Second best advice: take a shovel, go around the tree, and slice down into the root ball for about 1/6th of the circumference, skip a 6th, repeat. That will encourage fine roots to grow. Next year, dig it up.
Third best advice: get a pretty big pot, maybe a yard across (= 1 meter or so), dig the whole thing up, put it in the pot, with a lot of dirt that it is used to, move it to an acceptable place in the sun, and water it often.
In any case, for the next year, look at it a lot. Find what is going to be the front. Find the first branch. Find where you are going to chop the trunk and establish a new leader.
Notice some new vocabulary. Meet local people, listen to them talk, and every now and then say, "What is the first branch?", etc.
Best advice #2: don't be in a hurry. The primary skill required in bonsai is patience.
That may be difficult.
Second best advice: take a shovel, go around the tree, and slice down into the root ball for about 1/6th of the circumference, skip a 6th, repeat. That will encourage fine roots to grow. Next year, dig it up.
Third best advice: get a pretty big pot, maybe a yard across (= 1 meter or so), dig the whole thing up, put it in the pot, with a lot of dirt that it is used to, move it to an acceptable place in the sun, and water it often.
In any case, for the next year, look at it a lot. Find what is going to be the front. Find the first branch. Find where you are going to chop the trunk and establish a new leader.
Notice some new vocabulary. Meet local people, listen to them talk, and every now and then say, "What is the first branch?", etc.
Best advice #2: don't be in a hurry. The primary skill required in bonsai is patience.
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Posted 1 year 9 months ago #79717
Thank you for the thorough reply.
Unfortunately, if I don't move it from where it is now I don't think the tree will survive another year. The problem is that it's planted in this spot where it's basically at the edge of a fork of two paths in my yard where I sometimes drive my equipment through (tractor, skid-steer etc.) like if I have any work done on my property. And no matter how many times I tell the people to be careful, someone always hits it at least a little bit with a machine, breaking a little branch etc. It's literally the worst place the previous owner could have planted the thing LOL.
It's like putting a tree in the entrance of your home right in the middle and then expecting nobody to hit it when moving furniture in. So one way or another I need to move it.
What I was originally thinking was to dig it up and put it into one of these 25 gallon fabric geo pot containers that I have. I grew blueberries in 10 gallon ones and it works really well. The 25 gallon one is the largest size I have and I think it would be big enough to dig up the tree, and fill it with organic soil and the same type of dirt that was around the tree.
Then when I started looking into 名媛直播 I see that most people use inorganic material for where the roots are, which I previously played around with when I was learning how to grow some stuff hydroponically before. Like I used to have a small hydroponic setup where I was growing vegetables in plastic pots filled with lava rock, and then the system had an automatic watering timer where it would fill the pot up with water (which also contained fertilizers etc.) and then after a few minutes the water would be drained out of the pot so that the root don't rot, and it did this cycle over and over all automated. So when I'm looking at 名媛直播 I kind of see it as a similar thing I think.
But I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to attempt to convert the tree from an organic soil type setup to an inorganic setup or to wait. Probably best to wait till I actually learn what I'm doing, and in the meantime just move the tree to a large pot like you said.
At the same time I am going to reach out to local 名媛直播 groups, and taking the courses on here and I have books coming, so i'll be learning.
-Paul
Unfortunately, if I don't move it from where it is now I don't think the tree will survive another year. The problem is that it's planted in this spot where it's basically at the edge of a fork of two paths in my yard where I sometimes drive my equipment through (tractor, skid-steer etc.) like if I have any work done on my property. And no matter how many times I tell the people to be careful, someone always hits it at least a little bit with a machine, breaking a little branch etc. It's literally the worst place the previous owner could have planted the thing LOL.
It's like putting a tree in the entrance of your home right in the middle and then expecting nobody to hit it when moving furniture in. So one way or another I need to move it.
What I was originally thinking was to dig it up and put it into one of these 25 gallon fabric geo pot containers that I have. I grew blueberries in 10 gallon ones and it works really well. The 25 gallon one is the largest size I have and I think it would be big enough to dig up the tree, and fill it with organic soil and the same type of dirt that was around the tree.
Then when I started looking into 名媛直播 I see that most people use inorganic material for where the roots are, which I previously played around with when I was learning how to grow some stuff hydroponically before. Like I used to have a small hydroponic setup where I was growing vegetables in plastic pots filled with lava rock, and then the system had an automatic watering timer where it would fill the pot up with water (which also contained fertilizers etc.) and then after a few minutes the water would be drained out of the pot so that the root don't rot, and it did this cycle over and over all automated. So when I'm looking at 名媛直播 I kind of see it as a similar thing I think.
But I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to attempt to convert the tree from an organic soil type setup to an inorganic setup or to wait. Probably best to wait till I actually learn what I'm doing, and in the meantime just move the tree to a large pot like you said.
At the same time I am going to reach out to local 名媛直播 groups, and taking the courses on here and I have books coming, so i'll be learning.
-Paul
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Posted 1 year 9 months ago #79725
Yeah, the world rarely agrees to let us do the best thing,
Get a big tub, dig it up, and don't worry too much about the soil. Put mostly soil from around the tree in the pot. Around here a lot of the "soil" is clay, which I avoid. Clay dries hard and won't let water through., If you have a lot of leaf mould and sand, that will do for a year.
Get a big tub, dig it up, and don't worry too much about the soil. Put mostly soil from around the tree in the pot. Around here a lot of the "soil" is clay, which I avoid. Clay dries hard and won't let water through., If you have a lot of leaf mould and sand, that will do for a year.
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