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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77303
Hello, my friends and I are looking to get started with bonsai now that we've finally moved into homes of our own and put down some roots. However, we live in the desolate valley that is Phoenix, Arizona, and are wondering what the experts think our best options would be. Are there any species that are resilient enough to survive our harsh summers? I've seen jades recommended frequently, especially for beginners. Are there any species that can be grown and tended well indoors either part of the year or year-round?

I'd appreciate your thoughts, thanks.
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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77306
Jade plants can be grown in living room conditions. But they will always be better outdoors when possible. They cannot take frost at all, that is instant death. If they are kept all winter around 10 degrees C they will bloom in spring.

Jade trees (not really trees, but succulents) originates from cape peninsula southern africa. I am not totally knowledgeable when it comes to Arizona climates and you are not telling us how hot it gets in the summer. But I don't think it will be to hot for jades.

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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77312
The best recommendation is to get a tree species growing there in the area. Whatever you get, you probably want to shelter the pot from direct sunlight most of the time to prevent the soil heating up and cooking the roots.

You might be able to find a club in the area that can give mire specific advice.
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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77314
Hello! Im from Puerto Rico and we have really hot weather, you could try a Ficus, they can handle heat.
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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77315
I am not a specialist in climate. But I think Arizona is desert and Puerto Rico is rainforests? I would guess a difference in at least 50% humidity? I am not sure ficus will thrive in desert like humidity.
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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77322

I am not a specialist in climate. But I think Arizona is desert and Puerto Rico is rainforests? I would guess a difference in at least 50% humidity? I am not sure ficus will thrive in desert like humidity.

Well, you beat me to it. Phoenix is probably 5% max humidity, and probably hotter because there is no ocean nearby.

Phoenix will probably not grow many traditional bonsai species. Ficus might work, but probably (this is hard for me to type) would do better indoors.
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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77326
Thanks Ivan for the subtle spelling correction! I will try to remember, but my autocorrect will probably correct me as it is infected by many years off miss spelling. :)
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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77327
Besides jade plants there are a few more species that are adapted to desert climate that may work. Tree aloes are slow, but may make beautiful specimens in the long run. Desert rose are medium fast and plecanthus is much faster. None of them are trees really but can be grown to look like bonsai.

But look arround you as well. Any tree or shrub growing in your area might be a good candidate. Or should I say probably?
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Posted 2 years 5 months ago #77332

Thanks Ivan for the subtle spelling correction! I will try to remember, but my autocorrect will probably correct me as it is infected by many years off miss spelling. :)

I didn't see a spelling error. I went back and looked and still don't see one.

What I meant about hard to type is that we say over and over to put the tree outside. Now I say put the tree inside. Did the world turn upside down?

On the subject of harsh climate, we just left Ireland yesterday and are now in Wales. Nights are 12C or so which we consider frigid. The places where we stay can't understand why we think the heat should be on, at least at night. Daytime at 20C they think it is hot. I think 30C is warm. Harsh is relative. Trees all seem to like anything.
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