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Hi Everyone,
I'm quite new in bonsai, and i need your help to choose what is the right pot type for my tree. the tree is Phyllanthus myrtifolius, we called it Cendrawasih here, this tree almost 9 years old , this is my first bonsai, and the style i choose is quite uncommon,no inspiration i just shape the tree as my imagination, the height is 40cm and the wide is more than 100cm, still on large training pot right now for thickening the trunk and, i have this struggle in the past 3 year to know what pot should i use.. watching youtube videos doesn't help hehe, now i need second eye opinion

Tree Details:
Foliage Small, lanceolate to oblong leaves are light green and have alternate leaf arrangement. They are held in the same plane in 2 files along the stem.
Stems Thin, flexible stems droop gracefully downwards. Stems are highly branched, producing a dense crown.
Flowers Small flowers are pink to red.
Fruits Small fruits are round and slightly flattened.

Thank you in advance

I like the pot it is in now.

I think this plant is beautiful, and I second Tropfrog, the pot suits the tree.
Mayce (just maybe) a little shallower?

Agree! I tend to use pots a little deeper than what is optimal from an aesthetic point of view in order to optimize ease of care. That is a tradeoff I will reconsider the day I have show ready trees

That is indeed a beautiful, healthy, and natural looking tree, thank you for sharing it on here. If that is your first attempt at bonsai I am full of admiration for your ability.
Choosing a pot is a very tricky and deeply personal choice, (other than the dimensions which should always be dictated by the tree's wellbeing of course) and it can be harder when you have a flowering or fruiting tree, as what suits it at one time of year may not at another... There is no "right" or "wrong", but you've asked for suggestions so here goes.. That current pot does indeed look pretty neat, but I would also go for something about 20% shallower (look at the picture of the tree and cover the bottom of the pot with a piece of paper or your finger to see the changed "balance" between tree and pot... The shape I think complements the tree nicely, as does the minimalist amount of detail on feet etc - I personally would not go TOO "fussy" with the amount of detail on any new pot - a little is good, too much might distract the eye from the beauty of that tree! The main thing that I don't like about the current (training) pot is the smooth, uniform colour and surface. It looks too new and modern for a nice "mature" looking tree. Some subtle texture and aging on the replacement will further elevate the appearance of your tree. Deciding what style pot you want for your tree is only half the battle - actually finding it, now that's the tricky part... You could possibly commission a pot (pricey) from a local Potter, or - (and this looks like fun I reckon) make your own from cement on a homemade turntable - I'm itching to have a go at this for a couple of my own trees should I ever find the time. ...

I like the pot it is in.

There are quite a few rules that other people follow to call the tree bonsai. Others might claim the pot should be shallower, but you may or may not want to follow their claims. If you are there every day and can water twice a day, you can use a very shallow pot. If not, more soil holds more water, and that might match your situation.

After all, it's your tree.

Very cool tree and pot, the multiple trunk and canopy shape seems very natural and harmonic, a bit out of the Japanese traditional conifer rules, and more tropical.

I like the pot, but I would say that if you're not that pleased with this pot, maybe one a bit shallower would give you better proportion, Japanese rules says pot should be as high as the base of the tree is wide, not that you HAVE to follow this, even because like Ivan and Tropfrog said on top, a bit more substrate helps you on managing the tree health and watering.

You got that totally wrong. There are no such thing as "japanese rules". Just guidelines.

Hey Tropfrog, sorry, but I don't think I got it totally wrong, maybe the word rules have a different weight, but they are called traditional rules here, sharing more resemblance with a ruler, that you use for measuring, not meaning that you have to follow it maybe, even because it might not fit for some species.

And it is more compatible with conifers and a few decidous trees, that are more traditional on Japanese 名媛直播.

But here 名媛直播 came with Japanese imigrants and they taught us those as rules, later of course people realised there were other ways, even because for quite some time here in Brazil, people were shaping Tropical species to look like Pines, and still do, I mean, no problem with that, but now 名媛直播 artists here are more aware that there are other ways of doing it more natural for tropicals... But they still being called traditional rules here, and probably will always be.

You can call it guidelines, I don't see any problem with that, but at the end of the day we are talking about the same thing, and apparently we share the same thought about them.

Cheers!

Scimitarboy wrote:

I would also go for something about 20% shallower (look at the picture of the tree and cover the bottom of the pot with a piece of paper or your finger to see the changed "balance" between tree and pot... The shape I think complements the tree nicely, as does the minimalist amount of detail on feet etc - I personally would not go TOO "fussy" with the amount of detail on any new pot - a little is good, too much might distract the eye from the beauty of that tree! The main thing that I don't like about the current (training) pot is the smooth, uniform colour and surface. It looks too new and modern for a nice "mature" looking tree. Some subtle texture and aging on the replacement will further elevate the appearance of your tree. Deciding what style pot you want for your tree is only half the battle - actually finding it, now that's the tricky part... You could possibly commission a pot (pricey) from a local Potter, or - (and this looks like fun I reckon) make your own from cement on a homemade turntable - I'm itching to have a go at this for a couple of my own trees should I ever find the time. ...

ill try to update the look at this tree, I'm planning to do a repot this evening, i made my own cemented bonsai pot yesterday, and waiting it to dry,
ill try to apply what Scimitarboy said about 20% shallower.

Albas wrote:

Very cool tree and pot, the multiple trunk and canopy shape seems very natural and harmonic, a bit out of the Japanese traditional conifer rules, and more tropical.

this tree is fast growing tree but will take so long to ticken the trunk since it has small leaves.
I'm shaping this tree from very little pre internet bonsai thingy, i just shape it with my imagination and tree from the back of my hometown house, its like a parent don't know what to do with the kids even you already feed them from baby haha

Tropfrog wrote:

I like the pot it is in now.

Thank you everyone for the replies, now I'm more confuse ,

Tropfrog wrote:

Agree! I tend to use pots a little deeper than what is optimal from an aesthetic point of view in order to optimize ease of care. That is a tradeoff I will reconsider the day I have show ready trees

im using deeper pot for ease of care too! but i just made my new irrigation and misting system with timer, and i don't have to worry anymore now.