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Put them outside sheltered from the wind. Fex: If wind comes from west, place them east of the house close to the wall.

Many of the most priced yamadories has been grown totally exposed to the elements with no protection for ages. But yes, you are right, less survival rates in those conditions.

Bringing temperate species in and out several times in the winter however is the most certain death. They have evolved for thousands of years getting ready for winter in authum and stay cold until spring. Living room temperature makes them think it is spring and putting them outside gives them a chock they dont survive.

You acnowledge the competence of the people here, and anyway discard what they are saying. If it is just the attitude, you will not be able to change that. Bellieve me, I have tried. If you want skilled advice you have to accept that some bonsai people dont have that much social skills, but a lot of tree skills. That comes from spending more time with trees than with people

JRS85 wrote:

The storm knocked over a huge amount of trees and power lines in the area so a few unprotected saplings wouldnt have made it. I dont have quite the same set up in my garden as a pine forest to protect them.

In Dutch we have a saying "hoge bomen vangen veel wind" => Tall trees catch a lot of wind.
In reverse: Youg saplings do not catch a lot of wind. They are plants. They can stand it. I grow some 100 seedlings each year. 100% unprotected outside. No issues.

Tropfrog wrote:

Put them outside sheltered from the wind. Fex: If wind comes from west, place them east of the house close to the wall.

Many of the most priced yamadories has been grown totally exposed to the elements with no protection for ages. But yes, you are right, less survival rates in those conditions.

Bringing temperate species in and out several times in the winter however is the most certain death. They have evolved for thousands of years getting ready for winter in authum and stay cold until spring. Living room temperature makes them think it is spring and putting them outside gives them a chock they dont survive.

You acnowledge the competence of the people here, and anyway discard what they are saying. If it is just the attitude, you will not be able to change that. Bellieve me, I have tried. If you want skilled advice you have to accept that some bonsai people dont have that much social skills, but a lot of tree skills. That comes from spending more time with trees than with people

Many thanks for a decent helpful answer!

Noted on others attitudes! Agreed they need to deal more with people face to face to learn some social skills and lose this unnecessary hostility they seem to love to show online.

JRS85 wrote:

Do you get off on trying to be prick about things? /quote]

As has been noted more than once, this is an international forum, and there are quite a few members who did not grow up speaking idiomatic English. Sometimes what a member says may come across to others as pretty strong when it may not have been meant that way.

Ivan Mann wrote:

As has been noted more than once, this is an international forum, and there are quite a few members who did not grow up speaking idiomatic English. Sometimes what a member says may come across to others as pretty strong when it may not have been meant that way.

Although I do in general agree with you, I would say this is uncalled for rude:

JRS85 wrote:

Do you get off on trying to be prick about things?

JRS85 wrote:

someone acting like a teenager on twitter. Please try and grow up!

Sure. On a rudeness scale, this native speaker of English evaluating another native speaker of English (I think - he said UK), on a scale of 1-10 I would give him a four, which is about four higher than usually necessary.

Of course, there are varieties of English in the UK and it might not be more than a three where he is. I have heard strong opinions expressed over what language is spoken in Scotland.

And, of course, Professor Higgins said, of English, that in America they haven't spoken it for years. Well.

Guess I will leave this here.
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