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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73009
Hello! I’ve been reading about bonsai’s and decided I wanted to start trying it out. I picked up a starter kit and just have no clue really where to start. I was hoping you all could give me some help. The kit I got contains 4 types of seeds Rocky Mountain Pine, Royal Poinciana , Blue Jacaranda, and Norway Spruce . I’d like to start them all at once and would just like some tips and information to get it started the best.
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73011
Hello and welcome
I know nothing about your horticultural knowledge but my best guess is that it isnt good otherwise you wouldnt be here.
So... i'll start by saying that you didnt buy bonsai seed -that doesnt exist. You bought normal, but very expensive , tree seeds that if left to grow will become normal, full grown big trees.
That being said, you can make a bonsai out of these seeds ( if they germinate) but it will take at least 15 years to get something remotely looking like a bonsai. How? Well, a bonsai is created by using a multitude of techniques, on specific times in the year, depending on a lot of variables and this during decades.
But: first things first: germination. What does nature do? Around this time all trees are dropping their seeds on the ground and in spring a lot of these ( not all) will sprout. So, what you should do is plant them in a pot and place it outside, or plant them in the ground and let nature do its thing. Forget about the tropical species, indoor trees do not exist.This forum is filled with people trying to keep trees inside, they all fail.
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73012

lucR wrote: Hello and welcome
Forget about the tropical species, indoor trees do not exist.This forum is filled with people trying to keep trees inside, they all fail.


Maybe back off just a bit? I have a 23 year old ficus, a baobab, and a jaboticaba (sp?). Both of the latter two are at least ten years old. They spend summer outdoors and winter indoors since temps drop to freezing and below. They all are doing just fine.

Actually, the baobab does not like coming indoors and even though it sits in a south facing window and gets a decent amount of sun it still seems to want to go dormant a pretty long time, but it comes back every spring. The ficus tends to drop some leaves, but I don't know that it drops more than outdoors since I don't sweep them up outdoors. BTW, "Winter" here, temps below 10C/50F reliably at night, means mid November to mid March, so 4 months indoors and 8 months outdoors.

So, indoors not impossible, depending on the species.
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73017
Maybe off topic? Trees that are outdoors 8 month of the year growing nice and indoor for 4 months suffering is the very evidence that they are not indoor trees.

To OP: growing trees from seeds is fun, dont let anyone make you think anything else. But growing bonsai is just more fun and there are at least 5-10 years between sowing a seed and growing bonsai. Do sow your seeds and watch them grow. If you want to grow bonsai, get locally hardy trees in your local garden center also. Normally just one or two years before you can start working on them.
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73021
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73023
Almost any species can be turned into bonsai. For beginners it is best to look for locally hardy species and grow them outside.
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73024
Hey...
Royal Ponciana and Jacarandá in my opinion are not begginner species...
Both have really big leaves, and are not that easy to ramify, there are some techniques to do so without drying branches...
But you won't have to worry about it for quite a few years...

Jacarandá are pretty straight foward to germinate, you just sown them on rought sand, or any other substrate...

Royal ponciana are a bit trickier, it's a hard seed, so I usually scarify them on sandpaper, to allow water/umidity in...
You can also let it inside water for a day or two, if you combine those two methods, it's even better... then, plant on any subtrate...
In nature, they can take almost a year to germinate, as the seed coat naturally decompose, and just then allowing umidity in...
With that method it will take a week or two...
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73025

Tropfrog wrote: Maybe off topic? Trees that are outdoors 8 month of the year growing nice and indoor for 4 months suffering is the very evidence that they are not indoor trees.


Suppose I put the ficus outside when the temps are low of 27F/3C and high if 34F/1C. What happens? The ficus dies. Very simple. Ditto baobab and jaboticaba.

They are outside as long as they can survive and then indoors the rest of the time. Maybe the proper statement is that there is no tree that can live indoors all of the year. (With, of course, the wiggle clause "without doing extremes with the climate indoors.")

The reason for bringing it up is that the previous response was a little harsh, and that kind of harshness can tend to turn newbies off. I think sometimes we can forget that.
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Posted 3 years 2 months ago #73027
Oh just to add some info, if you are on northern hemisphere, wait until early spring to germinate the Delonix Regia and Jacarandá... They are both deciduous (or semi-deciduous if the winter is not that hard), here where I live, Delonix Regias usually shed 100% of their leaves...
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