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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68864
I've had my Chinese elm bonsai for two years now, and it's been fairly happy throughout that time.

In mid-March I repotted it in the same pot with bonsai soil, being careful with pruning roots, etc. and wired it in the pot. A few weeks later, it appeared to wake up a little, growing some leaves, but then it just... stopped growing them. I should say I'm in south Wales, and we've been having really weird weather lately, lots of wind and rain, temperatures a little low for the time of year (max 15C in the day). I've been keeping the bonsai inside in this case, as I can see it would get damaged left outside in such windy conditions.

In the last week, the leaves that are there have just drooped. I wondered if it's too much water as the top seemed quite wet, but today I felt in the drainage holes in the bottom, and the soil felt dry there? It was fairly damp on top of the pot, damp just underneath (chopstick test) but dry right at the bottom of the pot, from what I could tell.

Obviously my bonsai isn't very well, but I'm unsure how to best care for it from here. I've been fairly good at responding to its needs since I've had it, but now it feels like I hardly know it at all. Any advice would be very helpful.

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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68870
The elm is confused with season because you take it inside and give it totally wrong signals. Inside it is comparable to late spring or early summer.

It is hard to see on the photo. Are there any small green buds on the branches?
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68878

Tropfrog wrote: The elm is confused with season because you take it inside and give it totally wrong signals. Inside it is comparable to late spring or early summer.

It is hard to see on the photo. Are there any small green buds on the branches?



I can't see any at the moment, but there were some recently (again, about a week ago).

The reason why it is currently inside is because right now, there's a yellow weather warning for wind where I am (yellow meaning "be aware"); there will be wind gusts of between 40-50 mph over the next day or so, and it's raining very heavily. Seeing full-size trees and bushes being wind-battered, I'm not sure it's good for the bonsai to be outside. It's been blown over in the pot in less windy conditions in the past.

I'm not feeding it at the moment, just watering when necessary.
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68879
Ah, I forgot to mention, the drooping of a week ago was after it had been outside in heavy rain, hence my (probably mistaken) thinking that it was being overwatered
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68881
You dont need to take them inside due to wind. Just put them close to a waii protected from wind.

Sometimes they break a branch anyway althou not common if they are protected. That happens in nature all the time. The most priced bonsai in the world have lived most of their life in the most exposed positions in the mountains and many branches has been ripped off by wind during their life.
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68884
Good call bringing your tree inside. It being recently repotted and struggling, any new roots it might have could easily be damaged causing more trouble for the tree.

There is not so much you can do really. It is a matter of keeping it out of hot midday sun and strong wind, well watered: Moist, but not soaking wet. And waiting. Providing a stable climate helps, so minimize the moving around. Sometimes putting the whole thing in a transparant plastic bag helps, as it raises humidity.
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68901
Thank you both; I'll keep it in the same place inside (where it spent the first few months here anyway), on a windowsill in my kitchen. It'll get light in the afternoon there (but not for the next couple of days while it stays dull outside). I'm misting it periodically through the day to keep humidity up, and will keep a very close eye on it otherwise. *Fingers crossed*

For the future, yes, it seems it would be ok to keep it outside in windy weather, but good point about the repotting/wind, I'll bear that in mind
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