Repotting/Pruning/Wiring
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Some species can handly everything at once, some species are more tender, like junipers(or at least for me).
'Junipers show signs of dying, only months after it happend.'
Healthy definition is very broad.
It was assumed healthy without a prune and wire.
Now it is pruned it has less solarpanels, and some wounds.
Trunk/branches are wired, those got some internal/external stresses.
So the questions is, is the health of the tree, still the same as when you bought it?
Then ofcouse if it is already actively growing new leaves and roots, then the time window for repot is already past.
One of the things i needed to really learn is patience and do things at the right time. And not all at once, for the benefit of the tree. You want your tree to live as long as possible, proberly 20or 30years or more. Doing things fast, might give fast results for a short time, before it ends in a death(guilty), and you will need to restart the progres.
That said, everything is possible, but results will be diffrent.
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Trees are not digital. Health is many different levels between full health and dead.
When you do all at once you have a bigger risk of killing the tree. If you dont kill it you might slow down the tree conciderably.
I have stopped looking for the fast gain and started to appreciate the process. Only one work per year if healthy and no work first year for a newly purshased tree.
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In fact, I pretty much always do.
Difference between you and me is.. I have been growing plants for 35 years, been doing bonsai for about 11 years now. I have some idea when plants are healthy and what they can take in different situations. If you are just starting out, what you are suggesting is a really good route to dead trees.
Most websites are on the conservative side with recommendations, because it take a level of experience and skill. When you wire a tree, you put stress on it. Bending the branches puts stress on them. Most beginners have not learned how to wire in the least damaging way and see branches die because of wiring. If you then also stress the roots, you have basically foliage that needs repairing and is struggling to keep hydrated because the pathways of water have been disturbed. And the roots cannot push water into the tree.
Think about.. A garden hose. Full of kinks. Litte water comes to the end. If you then also have the municipal water reducing pressure by 80% because of local work on the water system you will get pretty much nothing to the end.
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Today's conventional wisdom says the opposite. Take your pick. If you chop the top of a field grown off you are removing a lot of leaves and you usually don't remove much roots, if any.
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leatherback wrote: It is perfectly possible to do.
In fact, I pretty much always do.
Difference between you and me is.. I have been growing plants for 35 years, been doing bonsai for about 11 years now. I have some idea when plants are healthy and what they can take in different situations. If you are just starting out, what you are suggesting is a really good route to dead trees.
Most websites are on the conservative side with recommendations, because it take a level of experience and skill. When you wire a tree, you put stress on it. Bending the branches puts stress on them. Most beginners have not learned how to wire in the least damaging way and see branches die because of wiring. If you then also stress the roots, you have basically foliage that needs repairing and is struggling to keep hydrated because the pathways of water have been disturbed. And the roots cannot push water into the tree.
Think about.. A garden hose. Full of kinks. Litte water comes to the end. If you then also have the municipal water reducing pressure by 80% because of local work on the water system you will get pretty much nothing to the end.
Thank you for the reply it was very helpful, but in your opinion would either of these be ok to repot? I am probably not going to repot the cascade because it was kept at a mom and pop nursery which is fine, but I want to make sure its ok after reading these comments. The other one has been kept garden center and seems to be very healthy seeing new buds wanting to come out.
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